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Old 09-13-2012, 04:33 PM   #481
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Not immune to a rough gravel road.



Ummm..Valley of the Gods. I did it in July on my ST1300 2-up
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:34 PM   #482
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Dave,
Nice pics. After hearing so many rave reviews, one of these days I'd love to take a spin on a Futura.
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:38 PM   #483
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IMO, it has a lot to do with demographics and style. Let's face it. Not many motorcycle owners really travel very far. In the US, if you are a fan of roadracing, you are likely to be drawn towards the sport bikes. If you think of motorcycling as a reason to hang out with your buds at a local bar, you are likely to want to style of a big Harley or cruiser. Sport-tourers are a more practical choice. They combine relatively high performance and long distance comfort and luggage capacity, but not necessarily the high style of the extremes of the spectrum, Repli-racers and HD/Cruisers. Many riders interested in a practical touring bike have been lured away from the sport-tourer segment by the big adventure bikes.

I think my SPORT-tourer is pretty fun. Even though I own a big adventure bike as well, I can't see myself ever selling her.
I agree to the point where I could have written your post myself...Good stuff Dave
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:52 PM   #484
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My first bike was a Marrakesh Red '98 KRS---I loved it. A few bikes later, I came back with this black 2003 K1200RS. Two bikes in one, it went from sportbike (a fat one) to sport-tourer when you added BMW's great system cases. If you get one, make sure there are no bar-backs and the pegs are in the high position!

This RS is long gone but I can smell another one in my future!

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Old 09-13-2012, 04:58 PM   #485
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Heading to the Mo-Kan rally this weekend. 700 mile round trip in our usual anti-minimalist sport-touring style...




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Old 09-13-2012, 04:59 PM   #486
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Ummm I guess ya gotta trust me when I tell ya it's my ST 13....
Just a little dirt...
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:15 PM   #487
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Valley of the Gods is a fun place around sunset...



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Old 09-13-2012, 05:26 PM   #488
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joe a, That is in fact Valley of the Gods. I did quite a bit of gravel that trip as I was dreaming of owning a big KTM.




Here ya go Skitch. You can ride mine for a few minutes.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:39 PM   #489
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Thanks for the video, Dave!

Your pictures are pretty cool too.
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Old 09-14-2012, 07:22 AM   #490
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What tires did you go for?
I put some bridgestone battleaxe bt023 on the front and rear last night. huge, huge difference in tip-in, even at the stock front psi. i also changed out the rear brake pads last night, one had no braking material left on it at all. There's a little scoring in the rotor, but the brake pads were only $27 from beemerboneyard, and the best price i could find on a rotor was ~$260. So I'll see how long it takes to run through a set of rear pads before ordering a rotor

This morning i was getting flashing 'brake failure' and the warning triangle lights. I bled a little from the rear last night, but the reservoir was right on the 'min' amount. would this cause the flashing lights? 'its a 2004 servo bike. brake stopping was normal.
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:33 AM   #491
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IMO, it has a lot to do with demographics and style. Let's face it. Not many motorcycle owners really travel very far. In the US, if you are a fan of roadracing, you are likely to be drawn towards the sport bikes. If you think of motorcycling as a reason to hang out with your buds at a local bar, you are likely to want to style of a big Harley or cruiser. Sport-tourers are a more practical choice. They combine relatively high performance and long distance comfort and luggage capacity, but not necessarily the high style of the extremes of the spectrum, Repli-racers and HD/Cruisers. Many riders interested in a practical touring bike have been lured away from the sport-tourer segment by the big adventure bikes.

I think my SPORT-tourer is pretty fun. Even though I own a big adventure bike as well, I can't see myself ever selling her.






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Who else would love a new Futura design with that Superbike Aprilia V4?

First of all, beautiful bike. I've always dug the Futura and just brought its obnoxious little brother (Tuono) into the fold.

Second, I think your theory is close to spot-on. Another thing to keep in mind is Americans simply don't have that much vacation time to take long tours. When I bought my VFR, I had thoughts of touring all over the east coasts, and the couple tours I did were awesome, but I'd end up really only going once or twice a year. Now it's also a pretty great all-arounder, but when looking specifically at sport-tourers, how many chances do we really get to use it for its intended purpose? Unless you're a school teacher (free summers) or one of the lucky few that get more than 2 weeks vacation per year (I count myself in that number), the answer is really not that many.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:00 AM   #492
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:17 AM   #493
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Just got back a couple days ago from ~3300 mile round trip to Key West from Dallas on my '08 Norge.


The bike performed flawlessly, but I actually sought out a particular casino/hotel in Bossier City, La. that I knew had jacuzzi hot tubs in their rooms for the last night. My shoulders were in need of some relief after a couple of consecutive 500 mile days. I have the Helibars risers (the only ones available for this bike), but my old body was really complaining about the riding position. The leg room is fine and I use a Go Cruise throttle lock which keeps my hands in good shape. I love the way the Norge runs and handles. It's great fun in the mountains, but I know I won't be doing a trip like this again on that bike because of what it does to my shoulders.

The most comfortable tourer I've ever had was an '01 Road King, but it didn't inspire much confidence if I wanted to play in the mountains. I may have to check out the post '09 models with the new frame. Everyone claims they handle much better than the older version. Next best was a Ulysses, but I didn't care for it much around town. Traveling though, it was a great bike. Haven't decided yet what I'm going to do about the Norge, but something will have to change before long.

Just for info, I'm really impressed with the set of Metzler Roadtec Z6 tires that are on the Norge. Those tires now have over 8500 miles and the rear still has a couple thousand more left in it. They are the second set and evidently I replaced the first ones a little too soon.

Only one pic from Key West with the bike in it. The red topped thing at the end of the street is the marker for the southermost point in the U.S.


Key West sunset.
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Old 09-14-2012, 07:52 PM   #494
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The bike performed flawlessly, but I actually sought out a particular casino/hotel in Bossier City, La. that I knew had jacuzzi hot tubs in their rooms for the last night. My shoulders were in need of some relief after a couple of consecutive 500 mile days. I have the Helibars risers (the only ones available for this bike), but my old body was really complaining about the riding position. The leg room is fine and I use a Go Cruise throttle lock which keeps my hands in good shape. I love the way the Norge runs and handles. It's great fun in the mountains, but I know I won't be doing a trip like this again on that bike because of what it does to my shoulders.
Just out of curiosity have you considered that its the height of your handlebars that is giving you grief? I have ridden back to back a Norge & a 1200 sport ( same chassis, footpegs & seat) and I noticed straight away that the higher cast risers on the Norge gave me a pain in the shoulders because I have to lift my elbows & arms higher than what is a natural posture to accomodate the height of the grips. Even sitting here at my desk resting my hands palm down on my keyboard is much less physically stressful than resting my hands on the top of my computer screen. Food for thought, if nothing else.
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:13 PM   #495
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