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Old 07-02-2012, 04:45 PM   #91
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:47 PM   #92
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:07 PM   #93
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It's not about the kind of bike, Doesn't matter if its a Gixxer or a Gold Wing, riding on the public roads is not a sport any more than driving is.

I think I know where you are coming from, but your post is gonna get misread entirely.

You might wanna clarify your last post before the flame gun roasts you .
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:13 PM   #94
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Maybe I'm missing something, it wouldn't be the first time, but I'm not sure how it could be misread.

For clarity, what I'm trying to convey is that to me a sport requires physical exertion, it's something that normally makes you sweat. Competitive racing is a sport, but street riding, or driving, doesn't feel like a sport.

If your Doctor asked if you played any sports, would you count riding a motorcycle to Stugis?
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:23 PM   #95
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Maybe I'm missing something, it wouldn't be the first time, but I'm not sure how it could be misread.

For clarity, what I'm trying to convey is that to me a sport requires physical exertion, it's something that normally makes you sweat. Competitive racing is a sport, but street riding, or driving, doesn't feel like a sport.

If your Doctor asked if you played any sports, would you count riding a motorcycle to Stugis?
Given your definition, then my FJR1300 is certainly a sporty bike, because I work up a tremendous sweat moving all 650 lbs around the garage.

A more common definition of 'sporting' means an activity that involves physical hazard. I think motorcycling qualifies on that account, too, despite ATTGATT. To me, part of the appeal of riding, whether it's riding off-road or off, is that there is some physical risk involved and that we get to choose how much of that we accept.
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:29 PM   #96
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:31 PM   #97
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Its only a sport if it is a race, and someone can win.
Got your flame suit ready? They really don't like people to use the "r" word
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:37 PM   #98
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Got your flame suit ready? They really don't like people to use the "r" word
I know a bunch of those guys, and I've run a few one-day rallies. In casual conversation, they refer to their forward progress as 'rally pace'. And a few have to take a year off every couple to let the points drop off their license.

They can call it whatever they want, it is pretty obviously a race.
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:41 PM   #99
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I know a bunch of those guys, and I've run a few one-day rallies. In casual conversation, they refer to their forward progress as 'rally pace'. And a few have to take a year off every couple to let the points drop off their license.

They can call it whatever they want, it is pretty obviously a race.
In their minds, it may look like a duck, and it may walk like a duck, it may even sound like a duck, but somehow it's not a duck. I'm with you. The stories from some of the Nevada based events and tales of "Higdon Three Veiner" speeds make that pretty clear.
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Old 07-02-2012, 06:10 PM   #100
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Thanks Rider33 I'll check out the DR650 - I want some dirt! so to speak.....
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Old 07-02-2012, 06:27 PM   #101
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You'de be surprised how many love the way a modern sportbike handles, etc and tweak them to tour on, the "true" heart and soul of the "sport touring" genre.
Problem is, some bikes, even tweaked fall short for some "required" features, namely range.
My 2003 SV650 has well over 100,000 miles on her, and with the bars up and back a bit, a Corbin saddle and appropriate creature comfort farkles, she's a wonderful bike to cover distances on, routinely doing 500+ mile days of backroads.
And I'm getting currently about 52mpg, so even with the smallish 4.7 gal tank, I still get 200 mile range.
Sure I'd love a shafty based off the Sv1000, but the big SV mill gets notoriously so-so mpg.
Here it is from a ride with my buddies Busa, also tweaked for long days.

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Old 07-02-2012, 08:03 PM   #102
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For clarity, what I'm trying to convey is that to me a sport requires physical exertion, it's something that normally makes you sweat. Competitive racing is a sport, but street riding, or driving, doesn't feel like a sport.
Gotcha - we find our riding tends to be somewhat enthusiastic - of course not racing. We are both very familiar with sports that require physical activity at high levels. Pushing a K12RS around all day requires a good degree of physical activity and I know my 115lb wife works very hard riding the R12RT with a good degree of zeal.

"Riding motorbikes is a sport" it's just a riding paradigm not a race.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:19 PM   #103
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Semantics.

How sporting is anything likely to be if it involves wearing a "sport coat" rather than, say, a "blazer"? Why blather on about the definition?
Sport bikes are light and handle well and have abundant power, a subjective thing; and touring bikes are big and heavy and carry a lot. Another subjective thing. And "sport touring" bikes are either neither or they're both, depending on who's making the assessment. But the "sport" thing defies definition as much as any other term.


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Old 07-02-2012, 08:52 PM   #104
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Hmm. It's defined by too short sleeves, fall badly, and crumple in weird places? Then, no thanks.
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:02 AM   #105
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Hmm. It's defined by too short sleeves, fall badly, and crumple in weird places? Then, no thanks.
We'll put you down as a blazer guy.

Actually, you could just about be describing me a lot of the time. Guess I'm a sport coat.
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