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Old 01-11-2013, 01:59 AM   #106
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if i were you i would buy the S10
i have the 2012 wee and its a good bike but i should have spent the extra and brought the S10, i done plenty of research befor buying and the 2012 wee had great write ups and plenty of happy buyers and in australia its nearly half the price of the S10,. i test rode both and the short test ride from the dealer wasnt really long enough to get a good feeling of both bikes, i found the wee nice and nimble and fairly good power for a 650 but i did like the S10 better because of power and on the test ride i took it on a gravel road and it handled very well (the wee i didnt get to take off the tar)
i ended up getting the wee because of price and because of the write ups saying it handles surprisingly well off road......

after doing many miles on the wee i was left a little disapointed handles great on road but i keep scraping centre stand when cornering (dont even get to edge of tyre) and off road its it feels like i'm riding on ice or marbles. the S10 i felt very confidend and safe off road. i have a set of k60 tyres to try on the wee so hope that helps a bit with the off road riding.

and also the buffeting on the wee is a killa even with the aftermarket screen

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Old 01-11-2013, 04:16 AM   #107
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if i were you i would buy the S10
i have the 2012 wee and its a good bike but i should have spent the extra and brought the S10, i done plenty of research befor buying and the 2012 wee had great write ups and plenty of happy buyers and in australia its nearly half the price of the S10,. i test rode both and the short test ride from the dealer wasnt really long enough to get a good feeling of both bikes, i found the wee nice and nimble and fairly good power for a 650 but i did like the S10 better because of power and on the test ride i took it on a gravel road and it handled very well (the wee i didnt get to take off the tar)
i ended up getting the wee because of price and because of the write ups saying it handles surprisingly well off road......

after doing many miles on the wee i was left a little disapointed handles great on road but i keep scraping centre stand when cornering (dont even get to edge of tyre) and off road its it feels like i'm riding on ice or marbles. the S10 i felt very confidend and safe off road. i have a set of k60 tyres to try on the wee so hope that helps a bit with the off road riding.

and also the buffeting on the wee is a killa even with the aftermarket screen
Buffeting is a very personal thing, depends on your exact dimensions, etc., and can be very annoying, but really itīs a problem that can be there on more or less any motorcycle with an upright riding position and relatively big windshield. Usually it can be cured, too, and 2012-> Wee appears to have improved in that area from the older models. And no, the Weeīs not an off-road machine, but it can take bad roads, tar or gravel, better than any streetbike. Weight is always a disadvantage for proper off-road (and +1000cc bikes arenīt exactly light either, you ever tried to pick one up from a nap?) More aggressive riders get centerstand down quite easy with many bikes, not just the Wee.

But if you think spending almost double money will erase all annoyances for you, I guess thereīs just one way to find out.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:52 PM   #108
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Weight is always a disadvantage for proper off-road (and +1000cc bikes arenīt exactly light either, you ever tried to pick one up from a nap?)
It's not that bad really, especially for old retired folk..

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Old 01-11-2013, 02:34 PM   #109
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Maybe not, but for me 'off-road' is about 125-400cc, and max 150 kilos (preferably less). Makes a world of difference. None of the big trailie bikes of today crash very well either, partly because they are so heavy. Can be fun on small, unpaved roads though.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:40 PM   #110
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Maybe not, but for me 'off-road' is about 125-400cc, and max 150 kilos (preferably less). Makes a world of difference. None of the big trailie bikes of today crash very well either, partly because they are so heavy. Can be fun on small, unpaved roads though.
True, 20 times a day and you a probably a bit over it, but the low weight centre on the S10 gives you more leverage than you would think.

The S10 was designed to cover many types of "ROADS" easily, it was never intended as an MX bike. It helps if there is a hint of a road.
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:47 AM   #111
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partly because they are so heavy. Can be fun on small, unpaved roads though.
Does this qualify as a SMALL unpaaved road ?
http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=5395.0
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Old 01-12-2013, 10:48 AM   #112
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Wait!

For the 2014 VStrom 1000. It'll be a lot closer to the S10 than it is now.
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:41 AM   #113
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For the 2014 VStrom 1000. It'll be a lot closer to the S10 than it is now.
Yep, there's always a carrot out there for someone.
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:21 PM   #114
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Does this qualify as a SMALL unpaaved road ?
http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=5395.0

What kind of skid plate are you running? I've got the Yamaha one, but it doesn't look so sturdy for riding rocky stuff...
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Old 01-12-2013, 12:33 PM   #115
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What kind of skid plate are you running? I've got the Yamaha one, but it doesn't look so sturdy for riding rocky stuff...
I junked the OEM plate. Pretty much cosmetic. Several threads on bash plates from
the basic to some really extreme options. I went with an Altrider. Better mounts than the OEM
but they bend up pretty good too.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:19 PM   #116
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Does this qualify as a SMALL unpaaved road ?
No that's a small unpaved freeway....
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:58 PM   #117
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Does this qualify as a SMALL unpaaved road ?
http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=5395.0
Is that K60 a 140/80?
Looks like a fun path.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:23 PM   #118
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It's not that bad really, especially for old retired folk..


wow, you made that look EASY! It's hard to belive you just handled a nealry 600lb bike like that! Very nice.
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Old 01-14-2013, 12:58 AM   #119
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wow, you made that look EASY! It's hard to belive you just handled a nealry 600lb bike like that! Very nice.
It's not that hard and it's not me...

All 575lb bikes are not the same.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:18 AM   #120
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Is that K60 a 140/80?
Looks like a fun path.

I have a ALTrider plate
That's the 150-70-17
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