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Old 09-10-2014, 09:09 AM   #1
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Respirator or dust mask with a beard?

Hey all,
Last time I looked into this they did not design any dust masks or respirators to use with facial hair.

Is there anything new out there???

I am cutting stucco and my wife (Dr.) is worried about silica.
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Old 09-10-2014, 09:34 AM   #2
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Since you are not dealing with OSHA, you can get away without following the rules to the letter. I take I this is a one time deal, not daily workings. If this is going to be your livelihood daily work, shave.

Reality is most people in AZ probably consume more silica in one summer's worth of dust storms then you will be creating in your weekend project. But you need to satisfy the other half. You probably don't want to shave either. two things come to mind. Silicone style respirator (so much better than paper) seal irregular surfaces pretty good. Add some sweet to that fascial hair and it will start sealing/filtering pretty good. Another product that comes to mind is scuba dive mustache wax for sealing a face mask. Probably not something to try if you are a in a ZZTop impersonator.
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Old 09-10-2014, 09:40 AM   #3
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I use a full face mask and use vasaline in my beard to help the seal. PITA but it works well.
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Old 09-10-2014, 09:41 AM   #4
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This isn't cheap...

http://www.rockler.com/trend-airshield

I work in healthcare and I'm pretty sure I've seen a passive version of something like this for people with facial hair to wear around tuberculosis patients.
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Old 09-10-2014, 11:31 AM   #5
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use vasaline in my beard to help the seal. PITA but it works well.
This or shave.
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Old 09-10-2014, 11:37 AM   #6
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Old 09-10-2014, 08:47 PM   #7
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Thanks for the help guys.

I think I will just use a bunch of Vasoline or something similar and a good quality respirator....

I will be cutting only about 50 linear feet of stucco, outside, hopefully with wind.

My wife talked with a few co-workers and she is a little more comfortable with me just making due, instead of shaving.
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The 3m 7500 series respirator and a set of P100 filters are the ticket. I have a beard that I keep about 3/4" long, unwilling to shave. I wore dustmasks for years, and they never lasted long , let me breathe well, or played well with safety glasses- the 7500 is much more comfortable, and it ends up being cheaper to buy the long lasting cartridges than dust masks.

Hope that helps. Wearing a respirator even with a beard is worlds better than no respirator. If you can get someone to hold a shopvac nozzle right next to the edge of the grinder blade, it makes a huge difference too. Depending on the situation, I can often start the cut with two hands, then hold the grinder in one hand and the vacuum in the other. It helps to travel with the grinder pulling you along, so that the dust is channeled through the kerf you've already made, rather than sprayed all over.
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This isn't cheap...

http://www.rockler.com/trend-airshield

I work in healthcare and I'm pretty sure I've seen a passive version of something like this for people with facial hair to wear around tuberculosis patients.
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Old 09-11-2014, 06:34 AM   #10
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^this.
A buddy of mine cuts concrete and has one of these masks. It has a low pressure air hose from a fan/filter assembly that packs on a belt which supplies fresh, filtered air to the face shield and helmet. No issues with beards and much more comfortable to wear than a mask.
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Old 09-11-2014, 06:49 AM   #11
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http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3...7577424&rt=rud

This is the PAPR we use where I work.
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Old 09-11-2014, 10:11 AM   #12
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Just shave yo' face.

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Hey all,
Last time I looked into this they did not design any dust masks or respirators to use with facial hair.

Is there anything new out there???

I am cutting stucco and my wife (Dr.) is worried about silica.
Your only option is a hood with supplied air.

This set up.


With a cartridge type respirator you can't get a seal with facial hair for true protection you need to be clean shaven. Silica is no joke Silicosis can be as bad as asbestosis, your lungs will harden and you can 't breathe (of course this won't happen for years).

When I worked as an Industrial Safety engineer we required anyone using a respirator to pass a training class and have their personally issued respirator pass a quantitative fit check (hook up the respirator to a computer and measure the amount of leakage around the seal. Different types of head shapes required different types of respirators to pass the test sometimes, North vs Survivair...
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Old 09-12-2014, 12:58 PM   #13
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A cabinetmaker friend has a mask half way between the two shown.
Again the positive pressure, covering more tightly round the face than the nurse, but not so much as the decontam kit the dude was wearing.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...rt=280&ndsp=29

sorry for the rubbish link, but it is the closest picture I could find.
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