Tourance EXP are NOT mud tires

[crazyjeeper]

So what do you get when you mix a super tenere, tourance EXPs, a dirt road and heavy rains last night.



I'll let the video tell the whole story.



By the time I saw that little puddle that took me down, all I had time to do was think 'ah crap, this won't end well'.

All said, no damage to me other than a little soreness. I am really glad I was wearing my Sidi Crossfires though, I will never leave pavement without them after this. Only damage to the bike was the tang on the sidestand is bent.

I think next time around I will be getting some knobbier tires since these EXPs aren't going to cut it on anything that isn't pavement.

[burmbuster]

On my XC. The stock trail tyres aren't nearly as aggressive as they need to be. mine happened in sand coming to a stop. The front end washed out.
Glad your ok. Could have been much worse. I am looking for tyres now myself.

[wibby]

what do you expect crossing ruts like that



Btw, they've worked in the mud fine on my Wee

[crazyjeeper]

Originally Posted by wibby

what do you expect crossing ruts like that

I expected to crash, and I did. Not my first encounter with a rut, just the first time it bit me that hard.

I knew I was up a creek when I saw I was heading at that hole at an angle, but I can't help but think I might have had a better chance of getting out of it with a knobbier tire.

[wibby]

Originally Posted by crazyjeeper

I expected to crash, and I did. Not my first encounter with a rut, just the first time it bit me that hard.

there you go then

[burmbuster]

Originally Posted by crazyjeeper

I expected to crash, and I did. Not my first encounter with a rut, just the first time it bit me that hard.

I knew I was up a creek when I saw I was heading at that hole at an angle, but I can't help but think I might have had a better chance of getting out of it with a knobbier tire.

Your right. A nobbier tyre would have helped. Looked to me like you may have let off a little instead of powering through it as well which caused more weight to be distributed to the front.

[burmbuster]

Originally Posted by wibby

what do you expect crossing ruts like that



Btw, they've worked in the mud fine on my Wee

Aw, yes. The mighty wee. Too bad there are no pics of you actually riding through it instead of being pulled through it.

[wibby]

Originally Posted by burmbuster

Aw, yes. The mighty wee. Too bad there are no pics of you actually riding through it instead of being pulled through it.

Been through that puddle many many times on Tourances, Anakees and TKC's. Not to mention the 15 miles off pavement to get to that part

TKC's really were not any easier, they tended to try to climb out of the ruts, ending with me crossed up

[crazyjeeper]

Originally Posted by burmbuster

Your right. A nobbier tyre would have helped. Looked to me like you may have let off a little instead of powering through it as well which caused more weight to be distributed to the front.

It is possible. When I went through it frame by frame the speedo actually went up 1mph just before I fell so I think I just kept the power steady. Really the problem was the front tire sliding on the wet clay.

I should have steered right and gone right through that puddle instead of trying to avoid it and stayed in a rut until the end of that particular low spot.

Oh well, live and learn.

[wibby]

What kinda pressure were you running?

I always run 22f/24r on dirt

[crazyjeeper]

I have no idea. I've only had that thing for 2.5 weeks, so whatever they put in it when they took it out of the crate I suspect.

[Forty Years Ago]

Originally Posted by crazyjeeper

I have no idea. I've only had that thing for 2.5 weeks, so whatever they put in it when they took it out of the crate I suspect.

How do you know if the dealer put any air in the tires?

[pretbek]

Originally Posted by crazyjeeper

I should have steered right and gone right through that puddle instead of trying to avoid it and stayed in a rut until the end of that particular low spot.

Oh well, live and learn.

I learned the same thing in a very similar way;
With tires like that on a muddy path (mine were Scorpion Trail front and Avon Storm 2 rear on a Versys, both at 22 psi) it is better to go straight through, than to try and climb the side of a puddle/rut.

I was going a little slower than you, but my bike got just as sleepy.

[burmbuster]

Originally Posted by crazyjeeper

I have no idea. I've only had that thing for 2.5 weeks, so whatever they put in it when they took it out of the crate I suspect.

Crazy,
Next time your going off road try running 20-22 lbs in the front and rear. Take a pump with you and just air back up once you get the pavement heading home.

[O.C.F.RIDER]

Originally Posted by wibby

Been through that puddle many many times on Tourances, Anakees and TKC's. Not to mention the 15 miles off pavement to get to that part

TKC's really were not any easier, they tended to try to climb out of the ruts, ending with me crossed up

Yup!
All those tires mentioned work great in the dirt.
That's precisely why so many dirt riders run them.
Why, I just don't know why I haven't seen the light yet and mounted up a set on my 525, as they should be even BETTER on a bike that weighs so little.


Please, I've got AT90's on my 950 and they suck ass in the mud, and they are at least as good (if not better) than the Tourance's or Anakee's.

Can you make it through "stuff"? Maybe.
Are they any good in the dirt? NO!
To state that you made it to "the puddle" after a heroic 15 miles trek "off pavement", doesn't really mean shit. If the "off pavement" is fairly dry and no greasy hills, you could go forever. Or at least until you encountered some nasty "real" dirt type terrain.
I hate TKC's worse than anything, but for you to insinuate that they aren't any better in the dirt than the other 2 you mentioned kind of makes it sound like you don't know what you're talking about. Or maybe you just got mad skillz, and you like sliding all over the trail to hone those skillz, as opposed to getting something resembling, uh.................... TRACTION.

To the OP....................you would be correct in stating that "Tourance EXP's" are, in fact, NOT mud tires.

Thank You & Good Day!

Chris