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Old 08-09-2012, 10:56 AM   #151
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I mentioned an incident last weekend. There was a crash: http://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacs...57630945051948 , but that is not the incident I was referring to. There was a mildly disturbing threat made against me by a fellow who lives near The Snake. I have witnessed, actually seen, this moron swerve across the double yellow to try and hit a Monster that was passing him. Some of the language directed my way and towards RNickey in this thread was of particular interest given the threat, as I only suspect who is behind it and just wanted to see if perhaps he was lurking here.

In my own defense, there are some on this board who hate me less than most: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=809967

As for the poster in this thread who postulated that no one was standing in the corner with strobes....

I don't do what I do because I get off on mayhem. Crash photos don't sell. After all, who wants to remember crash? " Hey beautiful, wanna' go for a ride? This is me crashing on The Snake...." I do this because I am 54 years old, and realize that the spark of youth and associated exploits are fleeting. If you don't have a photo or video, it all becomes just fuzzy memories.
Allow me to explain: I'm NOT blaming the photographers. At least, not directly.

Riders are responsible for their ride, at all times. Like the folks say up-thread, if you can't ride (or drive) with distractions, then you simply can't ride.

That said, a lot of folks don't deal with distractions well. What's worse (for me, at least) is that some of us don't deal well with folks who don't deal with distractions well. Meaning, I wouldn't want to ride places like the Dragon of Mulholland when it's all busy and hoppin' not because I'm afraid of getting my picture taken doing something dumb, I'm afraid of the other people who go up there at that time to show off beyond their abilities. Again, it's one thing to be afraid of the road-- scary roads are fun when you survive them -- it's another thing to put yourself around people who can't ride or drive worth a spit.

Unfortunately, cool roads = good biker magnets = photographer magnets = bad biker magnets = why the heck does ANYONE show up on a Saturday?
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:58 AM   #152
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After watching this like 50 times, I'm still not sure what happened.
I don't think braking was to blame.
I think he initiated the turn too soon, then tried to tighten up in the middle of it.
He looks tense just before the loss of traction, possibly he got scared? fixated on the guardrail?
It looks like the turn is tighter than it appears as you enter it.
I've never been there, just speculating from my desk.

What do you guys think?
You can brake in a corner.

You probably *shouldn't* brake when leaned over that far, however. You're pushing your luck at that point.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:02 AM   #153
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as somebody else mentioned....brake lights came on just before he lost the rear.

I also checked and no fingers on the front brake lever....so that led me to believe rear brakes.

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Looks and sounds like he was on the throttle, not the brakes.
Just needed more throttle, and more countersteer... Flattrack style!! Get that tire spinnin and driving you through the corner, you'll be fine!
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:06 AM   #154
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I don't do what I do because I get off on mayhem. Crash photos don't sell. After all, who wants to remember crash? " Hey beautiful, wanna' go for a ride? This is me crashing on The Snake...." I do this because I am 54 years old, and realize that the spark of youth and associated exploits are fleeting. If you don't have a photo or video, it all becomes just fuzzy memories.
Hey Paul.



It's AJ. It was nice to see you for five seconds last weekend.



your operation has grown considerably since you took that pic of me on the GS years ago.... I still have it around somewhere...


aha!

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Old 08-09-2012, 11:10 AM   #155
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IIRC, here in CA the plate has to be on the left.
That CBR has it on the right. Meh!

I learned to ride when the high desert was wide open in the '70s and the jump from 125 to 250cc was a biggie.
My buddy's RM400 was insane.

Point is... Most of these guys need track training on SV650 motorcycles. IMO
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:25 AM   #156
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Point is... Most of these guys need track training on SV650 motorcycles. IMO
how about we ALL could use some training in the dirt on an XR125, then graduated to track training on an SV650

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Old 08-09-2012, 11:32 AM   #157
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Hey Paul.



It's AJ. It was nice to see you for five seconds last weekend.



your operation has grown considerably since you took that pic of me on the GS years ago.... I still have it around somewhere...


aha!

Now THAT is an awesome photo.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:48 AM   #158
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I have shot close to 180,000 photos on The Snake so far in 2012. Around 150 of those photos are sequences from 10 crashes. So if ten people out of the approx 120,000 who have ridden The Snake in the past 8 months crash, what does that mean?

It means there have been 179,990 riders drivers and cyclists who have transited The Snake successfully.
It means you might want to check your math?

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It means flatlanders who not of what they speak should stick to crayfish and mile long straightaways.
Flatlanders as opposed to those hard men from the mountains of Agoura Hills?
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:52 AM   #159
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that was back when I caught paul walking up and down the road, snapping photos. As far as I know, this was the first one he distributed.

he's taken LOTS of pictures of me over the years....





makes me miss my CB1100F....

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Old 08-09-2012, 12:41 PM   #160
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After watching this like 50 times, I'm still not sure what happened.

I don't think braking was to blame.

What do you guys think?
If you look, he's definitely not on the rear brake.

He crosses that pavement patch, then loses it.

In previous vids, there appears to be some slight rippling of the pavement there, just after the patch.

If you listen, you can hear him rolling on the throttle just after he crosses that pavement patch.

He simply lost traction while accelerating.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:48 PM   #161
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brake lights came on just before he lost the rear.

I also checked and no fingers on the front brake lever....so that led me to believe rear brakes.
The lights are LED. They have a narrow viewing angle. That gives the appearance, in this vid, of the lights coming on and going off as the tail comes around.

If you watch the vid closely, you'll see that he's on the ball of his feet and never touched the rear brake.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:30 PM   #162
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Flatlanders as opposed to those hard men from the mountains of Agoura Hills?
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:50 PM   #163
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Flatlanders as opposed to those hard men from the mountains of Agoura Hills?
Hey, sometime the traffic is so bad on Kanan that it might take an extra 5 minutes to get to Starbucks!

I used to go up there all the time, priorities change, sold the street bike, spend 99% of the time in the dez. That said, I have gone up on the 525 a few times recently and slithered around on knobbies. I don't like going at peak times, either go real early or late in the day. And wintertime is good because there aren't very many people, but not so good because the roads stay wet in the shadows all day. I almost learned that the hard way.
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I have gone up on the 525 a few times recently and slithered around on knobbies..
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Old 08-09-2012, 03:21 PM   #165
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The lights are LED. They have a narrow viewing angle. That gives the appearance, in this vid, of the lights coming on and going off as the tail comes around.

If you watch the vid closely, you'll see that he's on the ball of his feet and never touched the rear brake.

That's what I'm thinking, I never saw any signs of braking.
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