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Old 11-04-2012, 01:35 PM   #406
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Really? That is a pathetic reply... Care to share why?

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Old 11-04-2012, 09:07 PM   #407
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Those 21" wheels are pathetic.

haha...it's not the bike's fault. It's a case of a rider over riding a motorcycle or his own skill level.
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:17 AM   #408
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Looking at some of the vids in this thread it looks to me like that one turn up on Mulholland has an extremely slick spot on the pavement. I sure hope the photographers are not putting something down to spice up their videos.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:04 AM   #409
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Those 21" wheels are pathetic.
Seems to work ok on my 990adv, admittedly it understeers in high speed sweepers, on asphalt, but nothing that extra pressure on the bar can't fix. It also does a good job on the hump's and pump's and pot hole's, caused by perma frost, that we have here, and there is no need to go into dirt riding benefits of the 21 front wheel. Pathetic?, far from it, as lot of riders on this forum would attest.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:00 AM   #410
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Iīve read all the thread, you all talked about, cold tires, photographs, banking, and iīm a bit stranged that nobody blamed the guardrail...
blame the guardrail? really?

I didn't blame the last cactus I ran over and dammed near killed myself. I blame my shitting riding.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:00 AM   #411
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Looking at some of the vids in this thread it looks to me like that one turn up on Mulholland has an extremely slick spot on the pavement. I sure hope the photographers are not putting something down to spice up their videos.
I don't think it's a slick spot. To me it looks like a pavement repair that is a bit of a bump.

At least in he middle of the curve.

But lots of those folks are also losing it as they get on the power at the end of the curve.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:02 AM   #412
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Seems to work ok on my 990adv, admittedly it understeers in high speed sweepers, on asphalt, but nothing that extra pressure on the bar can't fix. It also does a good job on the hump's and pump's and pot hole's, caused by perma frost, that we have here, and there is no need to go into dirt riding benefits of the 21 front wheel. Pathetic?, far from it, as lot of riders on this forum would attest.
I had a KTM 950. The 21" works there but are pathetic on the HD.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:20 AM   #413
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blame the guardrail? really?

I didn't blame the last cactus I ran over and dammed near killed myself. I blame my shitting riding.
When youīre looking for action, in the middle of the dessert, itīs ok, itīs your mistake. But if you fall for a truck fuel loss, way to work...a good guardrail could give you a second chance to go riding again, and blame your "shitting ridding", "the damn trucker" or whatever you want...

Just wanted to see differences in points of view. I donīt want to sell nothing.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:02 AM   #414
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all im saying is that if you're riding so fast on the street that you run the risk of getting cut in half by a guardrail, it's probably not going to matter whether or not there is a guardrail there at all.

also, I believe the climate of blame that's been created as of late is unhealthy.

and my English sucks - and that's sad.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:17 AM   #415
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No, it is not a false appearance. Things are very different with respect to people's attitudes to driving/riding. Using your guardrail example, this is what we have on many of our interstaes, and even state highways:



These things will seriously hurt you if you hit them at speed They are great for a car because the wires will act not unlike the arresting wires on an aircraft carrier. Horrible for a person hitting them though. The reason the government uses them --> Money. It is much cheaper than the traditional guardrails or rails designed for the safety of all road users. These protect greater than 90% of the traveling public. It is a cost/benefit analysis at work.

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Sorry if i deviate from the main topic. But here riders are quite concius with road safety and overall with guard rails īcause that thing can cut you in two easily.

There have been many achievements, but not a real and definitive compromise from the the main goberments.So we must keep on fighting.

Itīs so different in both sides of the sea or itīs a false appearance? I know in other European countries are also concerned.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:21 AM   #416
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IIRC, in Germany there was a big flap about guardrail posts some years ago, and they put a second rail in at ground level to prevent anyone from sliding underneath.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:31 AM   #417
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There are so many other problems that effect the public at large.....

for instance I have seen an alarming number of trucks on the road with these -



what's the point of these besides chopping off people's legs?
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:35 AM   #418
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all im saying is that if you're riding so fast on the street that you run the risk of getting cut in half by a guardrail, it's probably not going to matter whether or not there is a guardrail there at all.
At legal highway speeds guardrails are deadly. Period. At boy racer stupid speeds they puree you. And you are still dead.

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Old 11-05-2012, 09:54 AM   #419
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At legal highway speeds guardrails are deadly.
I thought we were talking about backroad guardrails?

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Old 11-05-2012, 10:17 AM   #420
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There are so many other problems that effect the public at large.....

for instance I have seen an alarming number of trucks on the road with these -



what's the point of these besides chopping off people's legs?

What are the chances of you running into one of those truck wheels verses miles and miles of guard rail(s)?


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At legal highway speeds guardrails are deadly. Period. At boy racer stupid speeds they puree you. And you are still dead.

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I've seen cages with the roof slit open like a can of tuna from the guard rail posts, after landing on top during an accident so you know what your body will be like after running into, onto, or sliding along, a guard rail.
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