rnickymouse failure Mulholland fest - Page 44

tlm · 02-01-2013, 05:02 AM

He was truly a menace to himself and everyone else...........all over the road, invading other riders space, and that goofy annoying dialog........still, I coudn't help but laugh.

Mambo Dave · 02-01-2013, 07:07 AM

I've always wondered why so many biff it in the same exact place there (there, and about 40 feet up the road from it), and this explains it now. People are hitting their brakes.

It makes a lot more sense, finally... after years of watching crashes there.

dwoodward · 02-01-2013, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by slide

Oh, thanks. I saw from the long vid that the guy was a very choppy rider. I kept thinking he was riding outside himself. He'd be well served to slow way down and concentrate on being perfectly smooth. When he gets that, then speed up if he wishes to.

I suspect if he smoothed things out, he'd suddenly find he was riding faster...

slide · 02-01-2013, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dwoodward

I suspect if he smoothed things out, he'd suddenly find he was riding faster...

He probably would also do better on something like a Ninja 250 rather than the ZX10R he was trying to contend with. I feel 99% sure that he'd be enjoying himself more on the Jr. Ninja as well.

dwoodward · 02-01-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by slide

He probably would also do better on something like a Ninja 250 rather than the ZX10R he was trying to contend with. I feel 99% sure that he'd be enjoying himself more on the Jr. Ninja as well.

Nah, that's a girl's bike, man.

tedder · 02-01-2013, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dwoodward

Nah, that's a girl's bike, man.

I'm trying to talk an (australian) (former) coworker out of the S1000RRRRR as a first bike.

(headdesk)

Tepi · 02-03-2013, 03:52 PM

S1000RR has to be one of the easiest big bikes out there, ok its got huge amounts of power, but it has EVERYTHING to help you NOT crash it, unless ofcourse you switch it to race mode. But it has ABS, traction control, wheelie control, the works.

rbrsddn · 02-03-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tepi

S1000RR has to be one of the easiest big bikes out there, ok its got huge amounts of power, but it has EVERYTHING to help you NOT crash it, unless ofcourse you switch it to race mode. But it has ABS, traction control, wheelie control, the works.

I don't care if the thing has training wheels, that is nucking futs!

DOGSROOT · 02-03-2013, 06:07 PM

I test rode one; it's a fucking doddle.

While not your classic beginner bike, it's easier to ride than the Interceptor I rode as my first bike.

Tedder, if your friend's not a total DingDong, he could go easy on it for the first little while, then slowly ramp things up.

Kinda an expensive way to go if he dumps it, but not necessarily crazy either.
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slide · 02-04-2013, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tepi

S1000RR has to be one of the easiest big bikes out there, ok its got huge amounts of power, but it has EVERYTHING to help you NOT crash it, unless ofcourse you switch it to race mode. But it has ABS, traction control, wheelie control, the works.

The fellow in the video clamped on the front brake hard entering the corner which caused him to go down. So you are saying he'd have been OK doing that on the S1000RR? If not, then you are just being a dope saying it has any business being ridden by a newbie.

Supahflid · 02-04-2013, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dwoodward

You have a very incorrect definition of what "lane splitting", as allowed in CA, is.

Short version: You have to be BETWEEN lanes going the SAME direction.

Nope, you are wrong about that. I have only the vaguest notion of what lane splitting is. I don't know enough about it to define it. It really was more of a question.

LuciferMutt · 02-04-2013, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tepi

S1000RR has to be one of the easiest big bikes out there, ok its got huge amounts of power, but it has EVERYTHING to help you NOT crash it, unless ofcourse you switch it to race mode. But it has ABS, traction control, wheelie control, the works.

Great. That will teach awesome riding skills. They can hop on, use terrible throttle control, terrible brake control and terrible clutch control, and the bike fixes everything for them! What could possibly go wrong?

DAKEZ · 02-04-2013, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by slide

The fellow in the video clamped on the front brake hard entering the corner which caused him to go down. So you are saying he'd have been OK doing that on the S1000RR? If not, then you are just being a dope saying it has any business being ridden by a newbie.

With the ABS Brakes on the S1000RR he very likely would have been "OK"

Paebr332 · 02-04-2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by LuciferMutt

Great. That will teach awesome riding skills. They can hop on, use terrible throttle control, terrible brake control and terrible clutch control, and the bike fixes everything for them! What could possibly go wrong?

At some point the new rider is going to think "I've go mad skillz!" and switch to Race mode. That will be VERY a brief but VERY exciting ride for our newbie...

trc.rhubarb · 02-04-2013, 11:41 AM

On that note, I met a guy the other day at the Ducati dealer.
He was coming off a CBR250 and test rode the Panigale.

I mentioned that it's a bike that im a bit scared to ride (because I know how fast all my bikes can go) but didn't get that far. He explained to me that he has learned that being smooth on the throttle is the most important thing. Apparently he was a newish rider but told me the Panigale seemed like a very safe bike.

While I don't doubt that it can protect the rider from some dumb mistakes, it can't protect the rider from being a dumbass or making newbie mistakes. I still want one, but I'll never own one. I don't have enough maturity to suject myself to that kind of risk.

02-01-2013, 07:07 AM	#647
Mambo Dave Beastly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2011 Location: 33064 Oddometer: 2,488	I've always wondered why so many biff it in the same exact place there (there, and about 40 feet up the road from it), and this explains it now. People are hitting their brakes. It makes a lot more sense, finally... after years of watching crashes there. __________________ "After reading through this thread I've come to the conclusion that more people cruise the internet looking for reasons why X bike won't work in Y scenario rather than actually riding their motorcycles." -- RyanR

02-03-2013, 03:52 PM	#652
Tepi Studly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2011 Location: Helsinki/Heinola Finland Oddometer: 516	S1000RR has to be one of the easiest big bikes out there, ok its got huge amounts of power, but it has EVERYTHING to help you NOT crash it, unless ofcourse you switch it to race mode. But it has ABS, traction control, wheelie control, the works. Tepi screwed with this post 02-03-2013 at 03:57 PM

02-03-2013, 06:07 PM	#654
DOGSROOT OUTSIDE Joined: Jul 2008 Location: DOGHOUSE Oddometer: 436	I test rode one; it's a fucking doddle. While not your classic beginner bike, it's easier to ride than the Interceptor I rode as my first bike. Tedder, if your friend's not a total DingDong, he could go easy on it for the first little while, then slowly ramp things up. Kinda an expensive way to go if he dumps it, but not necessarily crazy either. . . . __________________ In what sense can economics still claim to be a science if its predictive capacity is so dismally low? Timothy Garton Ash This drug won't cure you...but it will put your symptoms to shame

02-04-2013, 11:41 AM	#660
trc.rhubarb Beastly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2011 Location: Concord, CA Oddometer: 1,140	On that note, I met a guy the other day at the Ducati dealer. He was coming off a CBR250 and test rode the Panigale. I mentioned that it's a bike that im a bit scared to ride (because I know how fast all my bikes can go) but didn't get that far. He explained to me that he has learned that being smooth on the throttle is the most important thing. Apparently he was a newish rider but told me the Panigale seemed like a very safe bike. While I don't doubt that it can protect the rider from some dumb mistakes, it can't protect the rider from being a dumbass or making newbie mistakes. I still want one, but I'll never own one. I don't have enough maturity to suject myself to that kind of risk. __________________ 2007 BMW GS Adventure 2010 Harley Ultra Limited 1975 R90/6 Follow me here

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02-01-2013, 05:02 AM	#646
tlm Adventurer Joined: Jun 2012 Location: Sunny San Diego Oddometer: 20	He was truly a menace to himself and everyone else...........all over the road, invading other riders space, and that goofy annoying dialog........still, I coudn't help but laugh.