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Old 08-05-2012, 07:57 PM   #91
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Interesting combination of rear wheel hop and target fixation. My question, however, is can anyone identify the dainese jacket that this guy is wearing?
Do those bikes have ABS? That is what the system looks like in slow-mo from what I have seen in other videos.
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:20 PM   #92
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Do those bikes have ABS? That is what the system looks like in slow-mo from what I have seen in other videos.
They don't have ABS but that's definitely not what ABS looks like in action. If it operated like that, it would be a terrible safety mechanism.
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:48 PM   #93
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Looks like all the interesting action on Mulholland Drive comes from one corner where photographers and idiots gather to watch other idiots show off. Seems to me that if the pull-off was dug out/blocked off or otherwise made inaccessible, most of the crashes wouldn't happen.

I'm going to REALLY hate to say this, but I think US129 is more interesting. The upside, however, is that the more morons flock to Mulholland and Deal's Gap, the less of them there are everywhere else. I realize this has only a microscopic effect but every little helps.

I feel really sorry for the families of the few who ruin or end their lives trying to look good for the cameras and hope the photographers and other vultures can live with that.
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Old 08-05-2012, 09:36 PM   #94
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I have ridden section hundred's of times in the last 25 years. Here is my take on it.

Some of the things have been mentioned. Rock Store is only 2 miles down hill. So many stop there. Have coffee. Look at bikes. Then ride on with now cool tires.

The Snake is mostly 2nd gear with one spot that I go for 3rd. Until this corner. Which is 3rd gear for me. The corner is very easy. It has good vision. Nicely banked. Until the end, where it is flat and leads to a 1/4 mile straight. It is fairly polished asphalt.

So these guys( and gals) come screaming up it in 2nd. Finally get a 3rd gear corner. They really want to get on it and get there chance as the corner goes into the straight. So they send all 130hp to the earth. But the cold tires and the polished pavement and the lean angle just don't add up.

I ride up there. If my only day off is a weekend. Then I'll go early and get out of there before the chaos. There are 1000's of other turns up there that are better than this one. I ride those.

The Crest. I will not go there on a weekend. But on a weekday. That is heaven on earth. My first choice is a weekday ride on the Crest.

Oh. Lookie there. I have this Thursday off. You know where to find me.

EDIT: just went and looked at some of the crashing vids. Of the 4 I watched. 3 of the bikes had dealer placards. Not even plated. And there are tons of videos with great riders not crashing.
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:38 AM   #95
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Angeles Crest is so dangerous I wont even go up there anymore.
Damn. My first post-license-exam ride was with a friend who lent me his SV650 so we could ride the ACH. He rode pillion. Aside from all of the rocks in the road, I thought it was awesome. I was going about 45mph for most of it - just wonderful. It was october and chilly, so maybe that was why so little traffic. We sure did confuse the 'stitch crowd at Newcomb's Ranch with both of us on that "little yellow thing", though.
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:37 AM   #96
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Looks like all the interesting action on Mulholland Drive comes from one corner where photographers and idiots gather to watch other idiots show off. Seems to me that if the pull-off was dug out/blocked off or otherwise made inaccessible, most of the crashes wouldn't happen.

I'm going to REALLY hate to say this, but I think US129 is more interesting. The upside, however, is that the more morons flock to Mulholland and Deal's Gap, the less of them there are everywhere else. I realize this has only a microscopic effect but every little helps.

I feel really sorry for the families of the few who ruin or end their lives trying to look good for the cameras and hope the photographers and other vultures can live with that.
But which came first - the crashes or the videographers?
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:08 PM   #97
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But which came first - the crashes or the videographers?
Crashes came first. Squids have been crashing on the Snake since LONG before camcorders. It was just as wacky in the late 70's. I have been riding around there for years, and chasing off the cameras will not change much.
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:51 AM   #98
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Just past the lookout, a few years back. 60 something idiot in his old ferrari challenges 20 something idiot in his 5.0 mustang to a duel. Carnage ensues...







I had ridden through mere moments before this happened, remembered seeing the guys (idiots) parked at the lookout.
Here's the news article I could find:
http://www.malibutimes.com/articles/...newsbriefs.txt

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Old 08-07-2012, 09:21 AM   #100
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Damn. My first post-license-exam ride was with a friend who lent me his SV650 so we could ride the ACH. He rode pillion. Aside from all of the rocks in the road, I thought it was awesome. I was going about 45mph for most of it - just wonderful. It was october and chilly, so maybe that was why so little traffic. We sure did confuse the 'stitch crowd at Newcomb's Ranch with both of us on that "little yellow thing", though.
its not that bad in the winter time..... in fact I can remember being up there all by myself a few times in the winter with snow etc. But man stay away from that place in the summer on the weekends.
One of our own was killed up there on a Friday
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Old 08-07-2012, 09:41 AM   #101
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I ride down in SoCal on ACH and the canyons in the winter on the weekends and it's not bad at all. On weekdays I can have places like Palomar almost all to myself a lot of the time.

I haven't ridden it in a few years but I rode 129 once at about 6pm on a Sunday evening and there were only a few other bikes there.
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Old 08-07-2012, 04:09 PM   #102
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I have shot close to 180,000 photos on The Snake so far in 2012. Around 150 of those photos are sequences from 10 crashes. So if ten people out of the approx 120,000 who have ridden The Snake in the past 8 months crash, what does that mean?

It means there have been 179,990 riders drivers and cyclists who have transited The Snake successfully.

It means flatlanders who not of what they speak should stick to crayfish and mile long straightaways.

It means that a few of you ride with little ADV badges sewn into your panties.

It means that if you are in Los Angles and want to ride your bike to The Snake, you are not in imminent danger of crashing.

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Old 08-07-2012, 05:31 PM   #103
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I have shot close to 180,000 photos on The Snake so far.
And Paul. I want to be the first here to thank you for taking all those pictures of me as I ride past.
I never once felt like crashing for you just to "Get THAT shot".
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Old 08-07-2012, 05:32 PM   #104
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I have shot close to 180,000 photos on The Snake so far. Around 150 of those photos are sequences from 10 crashes. So if ten people out of the approx 120,000 who have ridden The Snake in the past 8 months crash, what does that mean?

It means there have been 179,990 riders drivers and cyclists who have transited The Snake successfully.

It means flatlanders who not of what they speak should stick to crayfish and mile long straightaways.

It means that a few of you ride with little ADV badges sewn into your panties.

It means that if you are in Los Angles and want to ride your bike to The Snake, you are not in imminent danger of crashing.
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Thanks!

Nice to see all the comments aren't darts and all the gestures not middle fingers. Thanks Jeff!

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