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Old 08-08-2012, 10:19 AM   #31
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...which brings up a question, "why do you suppose Triumph, a very reputable manufacturer of high quality motorcycles, insist on using cast wheels (19" - 21")?
Because most of the supposed "Adventure bikes" are ride 99% on paved roads but the owners like the idea to have a bike that can take them to the end of the world.
Is like most of the Range Rover, Cayenne or Tuareg owners, they like the look, confort, luggage capacity of this cars but they are terrified to scratch them with a bush or stone.
Three years ago I bought a used GSA, it had 30.000 km and never went to a unpaved road, it was new. Most of this kind of bikes are the same.
So, think carefully if you are going to do off road, if not you don’t need spokes wheels unless you like the look.

(I said “supposed Adventure bikes” because in my opinion a real adv. bike must have good off road skills and off course spoke wheels. I’m sure others could think something very different).
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:30 AM   #32
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"why do you suppose Triumph, a very reputable manufacturer of high quality motorcycles, insist on using cast wheels (19" - 21")?
The 21" hoop on the Tiger XC is a spoke Excel rim. So, what are you talking about? The Roadie? Because it's the road version.
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Old 08-08-2012, 08:01 PM   #33
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The 21" hoop on the Tiger XC is a spoke Excel rim. So, what are you talking about? The Roadie? Because it's the road version.

Yeah youre right, some reason i was thinking it had a 21" cast...
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:01 AM   #34
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Nice thread. What you're doing is a great use of the DD.

I'll probably go with the TKC on the factory wheels, simply because of the cost. It won't solve the issue of the relatively fragile wheels with low profile tires, but it will hopefully prevent getting stuck due to lack of traction. I currently run the Pirelli Scorpion Trails, which have been a vast improvment over stock, but still useless in mud or steep gravel.

I'm really looking forward to see how this turns out.
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Old 08-11-2012, 03:27 AM   #35
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Progress... not much

So I've been stripping the rear hub out and have found a couple of things.
Aprilia do things a little different to the Japanese manufacturers, they leave a lot of material in the hub around the outer race of the bearing:



Here's the other side:



So what does this mean to me? Well, as I'm running a 5 mm bigger axle the internal spacer needs to be bigger (current one measured at 141mm with a 2.5mm wall thickness). In order to accomodate this new spacer the material above next to the bearing seating lip will need to be removed to some extent. Not a big problem, quite easy actually. I could do it myself, but then I thought I'll get Derek from Hijera Racing (HRD) to do it, if he's still working on this.
As far as cleaning this hub up goes - I was giving it a scrub with a plastic brush and the paint flaked meaning there is corrosion there for sure, So I might just send the whole thing off:

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Old 08-11-2012, 03:31 AM   #36
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Here's a pic of the drive, with the standard spacer (4mm thick lip) that is normally pressed into the big bearing. As I'm going up to a larger axle, and the bearing is the right size for that axle, I will need a 4mm spacer to keep the hub and drive slightly separated.

New SKF bearings for the hub with 25mm ID.
Are there any thoughts/comments/experiences on these SKF "energy efficient" bearings?
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Old 08-11-2012, 03:35 AM   #37
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Spokes and Tensioners

So the idea of having a tumbler worked, but the drills battery kept going flat, and it needs to be removed from the drill to charge. Not my greatest idea...
Anyway, got the wifes jewelery ultra-sound cleaner and ran the tips of the spokes and the tensioners through it a few times. Ultrasound does work well, but the device switches off after 3 minutes, almost as bad as the drill! I suppose it must be a 'feature' as the spokes get HOT after a few runs. That water was clean!
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Old 08-11-2012, 03:39 AM   #38
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This is a question for me, I have the below hub from a Harley and its in good shape. The dimensions are all fine for running in the HardBack, but I'm not sure whether to use it. Its a 40 spoke, 4 more than the Capo rear, so that may look a bit off, but I'm not overly concerned about looks and its not easy to spot a 40 over a 36 spoke. Also if i coat them both black then who will notice? On the other hand my bike is brandnew, so it kind of hurts not putting the best kit on, like a Talon. Back on the first hand - this hub was GBP14, what will a Talon cost?
Decisions, decisions...
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:13 PM   #39
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The spoke pattern on a 36 is different than that on a 40,isn't it?
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:39 AM   #40
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The spoke pattern on a 36 is different than that on a 40,isn't it?
Yes, it is, it will look different. But I think anything will look different compared to the tubeless rear (except the Capo front!)
On that subject, I've been wading through all the usual sites trying to find a Caponord front, does ANYONE know of a used one up for sale? I've given up on a 2nd hand front rim - they get flattened in crashes - always the firs thing destroyed.
So still in two minds about the Harley hub, the biggest concern is that it weighs more than the Capo REAR hub!!!!
Well, at least it would be strong...
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Old 08-14-2012, 12:32 PM   #41
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Have you looked at the Aprilia SXV 5.5 rear wheel? A 5.5" wide spoked 17 meant for 180's. They are tubed though.

Doubt these are still for sale, but here's a good shot of them:

http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/s...tires-for-sale
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Old 08-16-2012, 01:39 AM   #42
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RADmfg have dual disc hubs for ktm 990, dl650, f800gs etc. Maybe try one of those with a disc size the same as the aprilia. might be an easier option (not that there is such a thing)
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Old 08-27-2012, 02:38 AM   #43
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Well, not much progress on the wheels recently, but I am seeing my machinist tomorrow to start work on boring the hubs for the 25mm axles and doing me some new internal spacers. I've cleaned (blasted) the hubs some more and will be going to a satin black finish when they are ready.

In the meantime I fitted a EvoTech Performance tailtidy. Pretty neat piece of kit, large ally bracket with place for the stock key seat lock. Took me about 90 minutes all in. Instructions weren't the best, could have used some more pics, but got there in the end:




The standard monstrosity:




standard stuff removed, ready for fitting:



And fitted:







I need to get a new number plate as the original had 3 holes in it from stock, none of which lined up, so having fitted that it looks crap. I will put a piece of ally plate underneath the new one to protect it (acrylic - not the strongest stuff off road).

While I was there I took a close-up if the rear caliper. I'm thinking I could shave down the Capo disk (280mm to 240mm) and not have any clearance issues:



The only concern (as always) is spacing.

Watch this space!
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Old 08-27-2012, 02:40 AM   #44
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Have you looked at the Aprilia SXV 5.5 rear wheel? A 5.5" wide spoked 17 meant for 180's. They are tubed though.

Doubt these are still for sale, but here's a good shot of them:

http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/s...tires-for-sale

Those are nice wheel, but I'm after a 4" rear as that would be the correct size for the 150 TKC tyre. Tubed or tubeless is not a big deal to me, but i would prefer tubeless, one less thing to worry about.
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