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Old 09-21-2012, 07:47 AM   #61
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How are those Arrows Herb?
Unfortunately, that isn't my bike. I copy/pasted that from the Palmer Products website. I think it is their test mule.

Mine still looks like my avatar, but without the license plate dangler. I keep going back and forth about aftermarket exhaust. I like the OEM look, but want the deep sound of aftermarket. I would like to gut the stock muffler, but want to hear a hollowed out one before I destroy mine.
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:15 AM   #62
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Some Updates...

Well, progress has been very slow. Work has kicked off after the summer and I barely have time to ride the bike, never mind do any modifications!
Anyway, got the hub stripped and painted in satin black. Didn't do the drive as i thought it may be necessary to have some machining done there. Turn out it should be ok.

So put the Dorso onto the rear stand and did some measuring:



You can see the casting line on the swingarm that i put the bottom of the VC against and then slid it out and took a measurement:



So about 35.4mm
Not the most scientific method I know, but seems to work.

It is running a 46 tooth SunStar sprocket (steel) which is one down on the Capo.

I slid the original 17" wheel out, put the Capo hub and drive together and slotted them in. I have 1 standard bolt holding the sprocket on. I also put the standard Dorso drive side wheel spacer into the Capo drive.



In this configuration there is enough clearance on the drive side for the sprocket carrier to clear all parts of the swingarm. This includes the stock sprocket bolts from the Capo as they are quite far out.

So the next step was to see what the chain alignment was like:



Same method, different sprocket carrier.
The result:



About 39.3mm
So 35.4 - 39.3 = 3.9mm
I am thinking that as I have two sets of Dorso wheel spacers (bought a 2nd set off eBay) I will machine one down and use that.
This will align the chain, the only concern then will be the sprocket carrier again gets too close the swingarm.
Looking at the gap (again, not very scientific) i am thinking there is enough space:



In the Bottom Right of the above pic you can see the bearing 'boss' of the carrier and the gap to the swingarm.
More than enough space I think
The bolts are closer to that rubbing plug in the swingarm, but they can be shaved or I could use countersunk bolts after countersinking the carrier.
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:25 AM   #63
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More updates.

Another pic of the Sprocket carrier clearance using the standard Dorso spacer:




So - what about the rest. Well the rear wheel is the next concern. As it is spoked it can be shifted a little using the standard spokes or a little more using longer/shorter spokes. Looking at the alignment as it is above it is not that far out:



The centimeter side of the measure is in the centre of the hub and I have ran it forward as close to parallel as i can. I will measure this up of course, but I wanted to get the hub in first and get the chain aligned.

Looking at the disk:



Bolting a standard one on will not work. Apart from the fact that it will need a 240mm diameter rather than the Capo's 280mm, from the above it looks like there will need to be about a 10mm spacer made up to space it out to fit in the caliper. More to do!

Overall I was pleasantly surprised at how close it was. I think i will need different spokes, but that may not be too bad.

Next post will be soon (hopefully!)

Merry Christmas to all.
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Old 12-16-2012, 03:03 AM   #64
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This is a question for me, I have the below hub from a Harley and its in good shape. The dimensions are all fine for running in the HardBack, but I'm not sure whether to use it. Its a 40 spoke, 4 more than the Capo rear, so that may look a bit off, but I'm not overly concerned about looks and its not easy to spot a 40 over a 36 spoke. Also if i coat them both black then who will notice? On the other hand my bike is brandnew, so it kind of hurts not putting the best kit on, like a Talon. Back on the first hand - this hub was GBP14, what will a Talon cost?
Decisions, decisions...
Why not use a scrambler front hub its a 36 spoke
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Old 12-16-2012, 03:35 AM   #65
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Why not use a scrambler front hub its a 36 spoke

Quite simply because I have the hub already and it cost nothing.
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Old 12-16-2012, 04:49 AM   #66
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Don't know if you have all the other parts you need but a 955 hub is twin disc/spoked/19inch front rim size. Might be an option if you still have to go through the mess of building it up.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:19 AM   #67
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Or you could get another Caponord wheel - the front is 19" and both front and rear take the same sized tyres as a GS.
Just don't forget to remove the grub-screws in the nipples before attempting to loosen them!
Regarding the rear-wheel spacing and chain alignment, it might be relevant that the Caponord runs its front sprocket the "wrong" way around - with the boss outboard of the teeth.
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Old 06-09-2013, 10:43 AM   #68
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:42 AM   #69
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Some news, will post soon.

Soon.
Front wheel is having the discs fitted up now, then I just need a TKC and tube.
Rear needs final test fitting and then I will lace on the rim and fit another TKC.

As with other ADVRiders, I'm finding life (aka work!) is getting in the way of the things that I want to do!

Will post pics soon.
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Old 06-12-2013, 06:20 AM   #70
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As with other ADVRiders, I'm finding life (aka work!) is getting in the way of the things that I want to do!
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Old 07-15-2013, 07:10 AM   #71
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Some more progress

Well, life gets in the way.
Anyway, managed to get some things sorted now it is summer and not too busy with the work. So I started (and am determined to finish) one part at a time. In this case, the wheels.
Final fitting required:
1 - that the sprocket bolts be replaced with CSK HT caps, as the clearance was still too tight for me. I also shaved down the sprocket carrier centre boss as this was also a bit tight.
2 - more spacer changes, but that was not a big deal.
3 - a mounting plate for the disc.

So here are some shots:






I've still to check the alignment, but am going to ask Hagon to space it over to the right (towards the disc) as far as they can.
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Old 07-15-2013, 07:17 AM   #72
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The disc is a little close, its a CR250 from BRAKING, but it fits ok.
The damn pads on this thing ALWAYS drop out of the caliper and its a pain to get them back in again, but whatever, keeps me busy.


The pad plate to spacer clearance is a little tight...


But should be OK.

So I spent the evening putting the newly powdercoated wheel back onto the hub. Found out (the hard way) that the wheel, spokes and of course hub only fit ONE way. In theory there are 3 ways to assemble this, but in practice the spokes are different lengths (4) and bends (2) and the wheel is drilled accordingly. So fun, fun, fun...
Those of you that are observant will see that the wheel needs to be trued (loose spokes):



Sorry about the rubbish pictures.

Other side with painted sprocket drive:

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Old 07-15-2013, 07:25 AM   #73
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Front wheel.

Is pretty much done, the hobbled-together thing that it is.
Harley narrow glide hub bored out to take 25mm ID 52mm OD bearings (Stock HD uses imperical Timken bearings), s/steel spokes/, steel 2.50X19 rim, Kawa ZX-12R discs. The disk was the closest I could find to the HD hub and they fit quite well; I only needed a 2mm spacer to spread them out to 135mm for the Dorso (they are 320mm of course).


Apologies for the yellow rim tape, helps when doing fitting.



I think if the Dorso is indeed a viable off-roader (i.e. doesn't try to spit me off at the first sign of dirt) then I will match the front with the back, as I originally intended. Used front wheels (the first things that get mashed in a crash) from Aprilia Caponords are still proving to be very rare...

So tyres are being ordered (and a tube for the front). When they are fitted I will pose the bike as per the first pic in this thread so you can see the difference. I will have to remove the stock low profile front mudguard, but that's ok.

Keep watching!
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:34 AM   #74
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Very interesting build.I've did some crazy mods to bikes but this excels.I hope this works out.Will be a truely one off set up.
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Old 08-08-2013, 08:45 AM   #75
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Front on...

Got the front done. The tyre is on and balanced, I am using a 'fork bottom lift' style front stand, so the callipers had to come off. Bit of a pain.
I am thinking there may be a need to have that lower plastic scoop on the radiator removed, as it may be a bit close when the forks compress. I might need to move the rad a bit up and closer in too. I'm waiting for the back (its being trued) before I take it out on the dirt.
Other things - it looks massive to me; but it is a standard sized 19X2.50 running a 110/80 tyre. There is an increase in ground clearance, and the steering 'flops' easier to the stops when it is parked (typical when the front size is increased). I need to do something about the mudguard mount points as they look poor - any suggestions?

More pics to follow..

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