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12-05-2012, 06:03 AM
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Back'in it in
Joined: Nov 2008
Location: Upstate NY
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Be forewarned. The PBR handles are made out of powdered metal or some kinda cheap cast.
I broke mine so I made a longer one out of SS , much happier now.
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12-05-2012, 02:02 PM
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Banned
Joined: Jun 2011
Location: Front Range, CO
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![]() Tools required: safety wire and safety wire pliers (can be bought as a kit from major retailers). It's the best middle ground I've found between clip style and rivet style master links; it's by far the easiest set-up and if done right is very safe and secure. You get the convenience of the clip style with the security of the rivet style...no chain tools needed for install or removal. This sort of master link securing is done in the aviation industry. |
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12-06-2012, 05:56 AM
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Rides slow bike slow
Joined: Aug 2008
Location: New(er) Mexico
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Interesting.
I'll stick with the rivets for now, because I have the tool, but I wouldn't be opposed to that method.
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12-06-2012, 08:27 AM
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Rectum Non Bustibus
Joined: May 2009
Location: Dearborn, MI
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If one has to use a clip link, after putting the clip on, use the chain tool to pull the side plate back hard against the clip. It will help secure it from being knocked off because it can't flop around with tension on it.
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12-06-2012, 07:33 PM
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Butler Maps
Joined: May 2002
Location: Colorado - Fort Collins
Oddometer: 14,458
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this is the pro tool
http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0135/ i have the bottom one on your list of 3 and works great for home use. the key is to always grind the pin head to ease disassy. the higher end tools are stronger so you can just push the pin out w/o grinding (ie quick shop work) but they are much heavier in your hands to work with. since it's occasional home use i go with the bottom of the 3 and grind http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0058/ i find the quality of the metal & tool very high.
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12-06-2012, 07:36 PM
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Butler Maps
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Location: Colorado - Fort Collins
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that's slick. replace the clip w/ safety wire.
question? why wouldn't aviation go with the most solid option and always rivet? Quote:
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12-07-2012, 10:57 AM
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Banned
Joined: Jun 2011
Location: Front Range, CO
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Good question. I have no idea. Maybe safety wire is the most solid, secure option. I'm not part of the aviation industry, but when I recommended the safety wire master clip idea on a different forum someone responded that doing that is inline with aviation safety codes or something like that. "NAVAIR 01-1A-8" he said.
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12-07-2012, 11:10 AM
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Rides slow bike slow
Joined: Aug 2008
Location: New(er) Mexico
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I'd wager a guess that they choose safety wire because it offers an easier item for quick visual inspection -- if the were is there and not cracked/broken/it's fine. Same idea as those torque paints that crack if the fastener turns.
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12-07-2012, 03:04 PM
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Gimpy, Yet Alacritous
Joined: Jan 2008
Location: Indianapolis
Oddometer: 1,722
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Yep. Most people have never heard of this, especially those people who are sitting next to the road wondering where their chain might be. I once saw a roadracer casually snap a much-used master link clip into place with his fingers after changing a sprocket and then head back out onto the track. Gave me the willies. Anyway, yeah, the PBR is a very nice tool. I've done the safety wire thing before as a temporary measure to deal with a missing clip. Not that inhumanly neat, but it worked. I didn't know it was an "officially" acceptable thing, though.
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12-07-2012, 11:12 PM
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Beastly Adventurer
Joined: Oct 2004
Location: Anchorage, formerly Spenard (hub of the universe)
Oddometer: 4,440
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the things that get safety wire on aircraft almost always have a hole drilled in it to accommodate the wire, and the wire is captive. a wired bolt or turn buckle will not move. the wired master link... mebby, mebby not
I have also seen guys wire the clip to the side plate |
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