|09-02-2012, 09:40 PM||#212|
Joined: May 2002
Location: Colorado - Fort Collins
we i see epic, i've got to let everyone in on it.
i posted it on the BDR page too, but i'm not a mod on that FB page.
|09-03-2012, 11:24 AM||#213|
Joined: Jan 2010
Location: Central Maine
Can you see him? So cute. I still love me some squirrels.
so, did you buy a squirrel or take the shortcut?
|09-03-2012, 11:58 AM||#214|
Working to ride
Joined: Jul 2009
fell off the wagon, but finally caught up and back on. Really enjoying your RR!!! Keep up the great work.
As you were riding Porcupine Rim Trail, I was hoping I didn't add to the route confusion. In the conversion from gar to norm, I bet the track color was lost in the gpx-->tpo I shared. I have PRT listed as an extra credit out/back track and different primary color, I use yellow as my "are you feeling frisky today" track color. Looks like you guys were feeling frisky, or perhaps misguided. In the end, looks like you guys had a blast and added PRT to the long list of future rocking chair memories .
|09-03-2012, 12:00 PM||#215|
You can do it!
Joined: Aug 2009
Location: SF bay area
also, "I once left town by the railroad tracks" sounds like a song.
That reminds me - I have another video for you...
you were so fast with your camera!
Matt was impressed.
I loved the part about the prescription mask...
Nothing good can come from that.
You like Friendface??
I’m not sticking my face into that petri dish!
Thanks, eakins. That was nice of you.
Good call - Therivermonster’s report is really fun! You can tell that he just loved the WABDR.
And, hey, you have pull with the BDR/Touratech guys -
can you get someone to answer my question about the geocache on the WABDR?
Where is it??
is there a waypoint?
I think it's clear to everyone reading our ride reports...
We always end up "taking the shortcut"
(thanks to Norm),
but some day, some day, we'll get smart and buy a squirrel.
(that shortcut looked like some of the roads we took in BC!)
Day 15: 7/6/12 continued
Moab, UT to Cedar Mountain, UT 233 miles
Here’s a blurry map that I swiped from the UTBDR website , showing today’s ride.
Here’s one more pic from Thompson,
something someone would put in a ride report...
Back into the canyon and the long way to Green River.
We had already stopped in Green River (before black dragon wash),
so I didn’t take any pics this time.
You can’t pass up fuel on these trails so we topped off.
There were some really horrible people (tourists) at the gas station and I couldn’t wait to get the muck out of there...
We had some issues with the tracks here.
This was Cottonwood Wash Road.
Norm was telling us to go across this:
It’s hard to tell from this photo, but the “trail” was a little steep and loose.
I walked across it and found a gate. Is this it?
BigWan came over...
I opened the gate and he went to scout it out...
It felt totally wrong, but we had seen this kind of shit on the TAT.
He said that the faint trail went out to a pasture and disappeared.
It didn’t seem like anyone had been there in a long time.
Back across the jacked up wash...
While I was walking back across, I saw this guy...
I’m sure one of you jokers will say he looks tasty...
More consulting of the map/tracks...
Let’s look down there...
I don’t know. This seems pretty bad.
Would a heavily loaded ADVbike with giant panniers come down here?
So we went back down Cottonwood Wash Road...
Until we found a cattle guard and a nicer road.
This feels better...
Now you know we’re back on the trail.
OK. So now that we’re back home, BigWan has figured out what happened.
He hates routing, so he does it pretty quick and without zooming in.
Delorme is missing some roads (mostly newer, larger ones),
so Norm is super helpful and routes us on the old mucked up trails he knows.
(“you guys like dirt, right? OK, try this...”)
Matt says he saw a ride report or a thread post where someone else had this same issue,
(i.e. the guy’s GPS was telling him to go across the wash) so it’s not just us.
So, if you’re doing the UTBDR - make a note:
When you’re on Cottonwood Wash Road at lat/lon
(this will be a fork in the road)
Go RIGHT and look for the cattle guard.
Back to the trail...we’re heading towards Cedar Mountain.
Stacked rock wall. Or something.
I guess the trail goes along some old railroad beds?
They were pretty neat.
This photo looks really clear, huh? Almost like it’s in focus.
Don’t go getting used to it or anything...
There were cows on this road.
Check out this cute little dude!
We also had a miniature dust storm.
It was super short, but I have it on video.
The sun was in matt’s eyes, so he’s looking down.
Couldn’t do HD or it would all be cut off...
Screen cap for those too lazy to click...
It was pretty silty in spots.
This seemed like a good place to camp.
The flies were a little annoying and the ground was littered with beer cans, broken glass and shell casings.
But, the important thing was, we had it all to ourselves.
Home, sweet home.
We didn’t feel like cooking, so dinner was banana chips and jerky.
It was a long day (we had started off with the Porcupine Rim Trail,
if you can remember back that far).
We sat on a lumpy rock and a pokey stump and watched the sunset.
Another fine day on the UTBDR.
(I'm not being sarcastic - it was a great day with LOTS of dirt and good riding!)
(no, we didn't have a fire. Or a banjo)
|09-03-2012, 12:13 PM||#216|
Joined: Jul 2010
Location: Hocking Hills
I say, there's no such thing as a bad day's riding. -metaljockey
whats the value of good gear?: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...ostcount=49301
|09-03-2012, 12:37 PM||#217|
You can do it!
Joined: Aug 2009
Location: SF bay area
Oh, don't worry - we didn't have a chance to use your tracks on this trip!
I'm not sure that we got them to work, actually.
You're totally off the hook.
Everything that happens to us is a collaboration between Matt and Norm,
and their "creative" routing.
I complain in the ride report because (I think) it helps with the story...
In reality, we like surprises, we like challenges.
We were having a great time.
Believe me, we were HAPPY to be riding something interesting!
Our best days always involve washouts, closed roads, wrong turns, and getting lost.
Otherwise, where's the adventure??
Bicycle trails are a new favorite!
I could *almost* see doing some planning/research if it means finding more of those...
|09-03-2012, 01:17 PM||#218|
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: Just North of the Southern Border
Rockin- Chair Memories!!!!!-------Thats what it is all about!!!!!!
Keep up the Good work!!!.......I am headed out
self discipline.......personal responsibility
|09-03-2012, 01:29 PM||#219|
Joined: May 2002
Location: Colorado - Fort Collins
glad you guys got back on track.
no way would rob watt have routed all those bmw down such a nasty off-road trail. w/o using a GPS and relying on our map alone, riding the UTBDR would be near impossible at time with all the turns.
|09-03-2012, 01:40 PM||#220|
Joined: Sep 2009
Location: Magalia, CA.
I was kind of thinking...
...that Norm has gotten used to you and now knows your style, You've given away the voice of reason so he's thowin curve balls at you. but you kind of beat me to it. Voice of reason does take away some of the fun. I used it yesterday out riding by myself. Too steep and rocky= potential pain and agony.
No, I don't know where that road goes, let's find out!
|09-03-2012, 03:13 PM||#221|
Joined: Dec 2009
Location: Northeastern California
|09-03-2012, 06:27 PM||#222|
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Nevada City
Yay! I finally caught up. Wow, what a ride (all of it I mean) Spent the whole weekend reading the Wans.
Hey Little Wan, does Big Wan give rides? I mean, does he have your permission?
I would love to experience all the stuff I am too skeered to do on my bike on my own! Maybe I could learn how to try it myself?
|09-04-2012, 06:34 AM||#223|
Joined: Dec 2005
After watching the Porcupine Trail Video I see why Little Wan has such a good grip!
ADV Relay Rider 08 (The Texas Connection)
Ride Pooie Ride
Don't stop riding until you get to the crash , you might save it!
|09-04-2012, 02:39 PM||#224|
You can do it!
Joined: Aug 2009
Location: SF bay area
hope you all had a nice weekend!
Heh. I'm glad you said the part about the BMWs (and not me)
yeah, one really needs the tracks AND a good GPS for these BDR trails.
We liked the UTBDR map, even though we did a crap job of using it.
I especially like it now that we're home and I'm actually looking at it.
We could have gotten a lot of info from it on the trail if we weren't so lazy!
Norm sits up there on the dash, listening to Matt bitch about how easy some of the roads are, and he's just trying to helpful.
yeah, I feel like a monkey, sometimes...
glad you made it through them!
Wow, that's pretty impressive - that would be 129 pages of RR.
There'll be a quiz later to see if you were paying attention or just skimming the pics...
As far as the "Does-BigWan-give-rides?" question goes,
We couldn't tell if you were being serious or not...
if you were kidding:
The answer is NO - I don't share and he doesn't teach.
if you were serious:
The answer is NO - I don't share and he doesn't teach!
But, really. That's a bad idea.
If you want to work on more technical riding/skill building you need to visit Jimmy Lewis.
He has an off-road school and he's your man.
good grip + getting a refund...
are you calling me tight-fisted??
haha, 'cause you're right!
If that's NOT it, then I have no clue.
Maybe I'd better clear my mind...
Pop de top pop de top pop de top!
Day 16: 7/7/12
Cedar Mountain UT to Beaver View Camp Ground (Wasatch Forest) 260 miles
Blurry map for today. here’s a link to the interactive UTBDR map, so you can zoom in or whatever.
We missed some of the trail (green) due to a road closure,
but I added our detour in pink.
Today we’re doing the rest of Section 3, all of Section 4, and part of Section 5.
Slept great at Cedar Mountain.
Had a little more sandy/twisty stuff and then it was on to the fast roads.
Saw some pronghorn.
And then we were in Wellington.
Got fuel for the bike and ourselves (egg muffin things at subway)
While we were there, a super nice woman found a wallet in the bathroom.
Her husband jumped on their bike and went speeding after a 5th wheel, thinking it belonged to one of the passengers.
But, wow, that was nice of the guy.
We talked to him a little more. Turned him onto the TAT.
He had never heard of it, but was very intrigued...
(he and his wife ride dirt bikes in Colorado).
(there he is, telling matt about his rig...)
Next up was Nine Mile Canyon.
Did you know they were paving it? Sad.
I guess there’s a bunch of oil/natural gas drilling in the canyon
and the dust from the big trucks is ruining the rock art.
We didn’t get a chance to look at any of the petroglyphs/pictographs in Nine Mile Canyon.
(oh yeah, those last ones in Thompson Canyon were pictographs. I screwed up)
But they’re supposed to be really great.
Argyle Canyon was beautiful.
These pretty horses were just hanging out.
They didn’t want to move at all, just stood there staring at us...
As we went deeper into the canyon, we were eyeing these dark clouds...
We were over 20 miles into Argyle Canyon when we hit a road closure.
The Church Camp Fire was out, but they had the road closed so the residents could get in and check on their property.
The guys (a forestry worker and a local resident) were really nice.
It looks like they’re stopping us here, but they’re actually waving goodbye.
They looked at our UTBDR map and suggested a detour.
Having never heard of the UTBDR, they were intrigued to learn about the trail...
When we left, the forestry guy told us, “Don’t worry - you aren’t missing much with the detour.
Just lots of slick, snotty mud. It’s greasy out there...”
We really felt for the poor residents of the canyon.
To add insult to injury, the thunderstorms were bringing tons of rain and hail
and anything that hadn’t burned was now getting soaked.
Here’s a map of our Argyle Canyon detour.
(points A+C are the same - 20 miles into the canyon, 20 mi out)
Back down through Argyle...
Back through Nine Mile...
And then up through the Myton-Gate Canyon.
The guys said that this road takes a while in a pickup...
But it was pretty quick on the bike.
Nice and sunny, too.
Didn’t go all the way into Myton,
stopped in Duchesne for gas.
A number of towns had really pretty flower boxes this summer.
Here’s some from Duchesne.
We thought we had lucked out and were going to miss the rain today.
Hwy 40 was bringing us back to the UTBDR and right into the storm.
We stopped to close our jacket/pants vents just in time.
Had heavy rain and hail for a lot of our ride, starting on Hwy 40.
Here's the turn off for Currant Creek.
I enjoy rainy photos so you're getting a bunch of them...
It was really pretty, though.
And the ground wasn’t bad at all.
I was happy when the hail stopped (it stings!), but it kept on raining.
Look at that downpour!
The only bad part was seeing lightning (no pics)
and hearing the thunder as we went up in elevation...
Now we're in the Uinta Forest...
You can’t tell from my photos, but the forests were busy.
It was the saturday after july 4th...
Lots and lots of Quads and golf carts (Rhinos).
This guy was doing donuts in the middle of the road.
At least he stopped to let us go by.
We got cut off a bunch of times - quads would just shoot out onto the road without looking.
So, we were happy to find some rocks.
That's a nice thing about rough roads - no quads.
And if you do see them, they’re helluv slow...
This was Section 5.
we did the rocky alternate route - Trail 041
It started to rain about halfway through and a big drop fell right in the freaking center of the camera lens.
It sucks, but I think you can still see the rocks...they're in HD!
In the video, Matt sounds surprised to see the rocks, huh?
He even says something like, “Thanks for heads up, guys...”
and sounds all irritated at the UTBDR fellas.
It turns out that Matt had routed us onto the alternate route and then totally forgot about it.
The UTBDR map was also clearly marked - Rocky Section.
But, the only time the map had been out of the tank bag was to show the Forestry guy.
I should have cut that part out of the video.
but I didn’t think about it until after it was up on youtube...
Sorry BDR guys.
Sorry Butler Maps.
Crap - now I’ll never get an answer about the WABDR geocache!
Matt wanted to camp here, but there were too many mosquitoes.
Also, it was way too early.
Back on the trail.
Wow, 9,700 feet!
We decided to camp at Beaver View campground
(what else could that have been, right? )
Haha, actual campground info, here.
It was worth waiting. This was a much nicer spot to camp.
There were people, but I like having a table.
Having all that extra flesh around helped with the mosquitoes, too.
Got some bites, but nearly as many as I would have next to that pond.
We forgot to zero out Norm this morning,
so add 12 miles to the total.
Another good day.
Here are the tires - almost 500 miles on them. Lookin' good.
Tomorrow - finishing up the UTBDR!
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LittleWan screwed with this post 09-04-2012 at 03:47 PM Reason: didn't want it to sound like a sad cliffhanger...
|09-04-2012, 03:32 PM||#225|
unpaved is better
Joined: May 2009
Sad cliff hanger?
Leave only tracks, take only photos, leave the gate as you found it. Yes, an old ex-backpacker.
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