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Old 11-13-2012, 09:01 AM   #196
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The demographic this bike is going to be most appealing to can afford new. The 40-55 year age group that grew up on UJM's and are ready to move on from sport bikes [or ADV bikes] and want a little nostalgia to remind them of that old CB900f .... that provided them thrills when they were 20 [25].
I guess I better get one in the next two weeks before I move out of that age group! But only 3.9 gallon (US) tank? I think my CB900F held more than 5 gallons; I certainly remember going over 200 miles on a tank. And that stock seat was good for about that distance also.

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Old 11-13-2012, 09:13 AM   #197
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First let me say I love this bike, and I'm so proud of Honda for bringing it here. I learned to ride on a '75 CB750 and will always have a soft spot in my heart for Honda's air-cooled inline fours, not to mention that gorgeous classic styling. The only thing I see that would make this bike perfect is a sixth gear, maybe a smidge more power, a little less weight, and a bigger fuel tank. But none of these things would keep me from owning one, and one day I hope to.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:25 AM   #198
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First let me say I love this bike, and I'm so proud of Honda for bringing it here. I learned to ride on a '75 CB750 and will always have a soft spot in my heart for Honda's air-cooled inline fours, not to mention that gorgeous classic styling. The only thing I see that would make this bike perfect is a sixth gear, maybe a smidge more power, a little less weight, and a bigger fuel tank. But none of these things would keep me from owning one, and one day I hope to.
Most folks clamor for a 6th gear for every bike, but really, it depends on how the first 5 are spaced whether it is necessary. With this much torque, the CB1100 gears, especially the top one, could be widely spaced.

I never wished for a 6th on my DR650SE.

On the other hand, on my CBF1000 (I-4, 6-speed, 15% more HP but same torque as the CB1100) the gears are closer than they need to be, and the RPM at 125 KPH (75 MPH) is 5,000 (red-line is 10,000). The CBF would be a better highway bike for 125 / 75 plus speeds if 6th were a much taller, overdrive to drop the RPMs and reduce vibration. I wish it had a 7th!
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:49 AM   #199
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Plenty of discussion over in Road Warriors.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=820439

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http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/117/14...irst-Ride.aspx

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufactur...ide-91464.html

HP is 85, so not big power for it's displacement. Torque is good at 68. I think it is a beauty, and perfect for folks like me who like the looks and size of the Guzzi V7, new Bonneville, W650/800, but who also like Hondas and want a little better suspension and a bit more performance.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:01 AM   #200
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gee, look, a motorcycle.

You could ride to work/school, have fun on twistie roads on the weekend, gor for trips with the soft luggage added, run errands, venture down a dirt road. . . . .

what a great idea!

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Retro is one descriptor -- mutlifacted is another -- just makes good sense . . .
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:21 AM   #201
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Marketing is not about building something that everyone likes, it's about building something that enough people feel strongly enough to act upon. Motorcycle demo's are getting older and most of us cut our teeth on bikes like these. There are more than enough pirate & power ranger options out there. New bike buyers enter the market for different reasons than classic bike buyers and the world of new standards is fairly limited in the states right now tho Triumph has done quite well with the Bonnie line. Compared to a T100 I'd say this thing is well priced and will likely do well. Poor Kawasaki, by the time they figure that all out and bring the W back in they'll have missed the window, but again. Timing is everything and I think Honda nailed it.
I agree about what you've said about marketing, and while the retro CB isn't bad (defintely not as nice as the CB400F it was shooting for), I like this one better:
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I'd buy this one,
Ford and Chevy have done pretty good with modern recreations of the Camaro and Mustang, the CB to me seems to be Honda's modern recreation of a Granada.......
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:23 AM   #202
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I totally agree with the clean looks of the bike, and the potential for customization.

And earlier poster said he liked the bike, but preferred non-chrome fenders. I could see color-matched fenders of different styles being a nice factory or dealer option. HD has gone to the bank with that concept. Not sure if Honda does something similar with their Shadow lineup. I could see the path if Honda were to choose to do this. The CB's gotta sell initially to get that whole ball rolling though. Hopefully it does.
Yes, hopefully it does.
Where the Honda shadow is seen by some as a "fake Harley" and uncool, the old CB's have a certain genuine street cred. People have been chopping and customizing them since the 70's. The current cafe racer trend has further served to cement the CB's coolness factor.

If Honda would treat this CB1100 the same as Harley is treating the Sportster line, Honda could have a winner on it's hands. I really hope it is not a flash in the pan.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:34 AM   #203
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:16 AM   #204
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Absolutely love it, just wish I had not spent all my bike money this year, I will have to hope it is available for a few years.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:18 AM   #205
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Give Me, Give Me, Give Me

I WANT ONE!

I've owned a 1985 CB700S and a 1992 CB750 and enjoyed them both. Put 98K miles on the 700 and 78K miles on the 750.

When I went to replace my `92 CB750 a few years back I ended up buying a Suzuki Bandit 1200/S because the Honda 919 at the time did not click with me for various reasons.

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Old 11-13-2012, 11:18 AM   #206
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I totally agree with the clean looks of the bike, and the potential for customization.

And earlier poster said he liked the bike, but preferred non-chrome fenders. I could see color-matched fenders of different styles being a nice factory or dealer option. HD has gone to the bank with that concept. Not sure if Honda does something similar with their Shadow lineup. I could see the path if Honda were to choose to do this. The CB's gotta sell initially to get that whole ball rolling though. Hopefully it does.
Painting the fenders, or even bobbing them and then painting, is a piece of cake.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:26 AM   #207
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gee, look, a motorcycle.

You could ride to work/school, have fun on twistie roads on the weekend, gor for trips with the soft luggage added, run errands, venture down a dirt road. . . . .

what a great idea!

(smile)

Retro is one descriptor -- mutlifacted is another -- just makes good sense . . .
Or call it what it is. UJM.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:30 AM   #208
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:30 AM   #209
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Plenty of discussion over in Road Warriors.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=820439

Media:

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/117/14...irst-Ride.aspx

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufactur...ide-91464.html

HP is 85, so not big power for it's displacement. Torque is good at 68. I think it is a beauty, and perfect for folks like me who like the looks and size of the Guzzi V7, new Bonneville, W650/800,d but who also like Hondas and want a little better suspension and a bit more performance.


My oil/air cooled R1200R makes 109 hp to the road with 85 ft-lbs of torque. I can't understand Honda letting this beast out with at least 100 hp. I found a wet weight of 540 #'s. Not bad but should be only 500.

Maybe after market can take care of these short-comings. There's proabably close to 15 ponies worth of intake/exhaust restriction. And knowing Honda the exhaust/intake valve overlap is proabably very short. Just a bit of cam timing adjustment would make a big difference.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:39 AM   #210
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