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Old 11-20-2012, 12:28 PM   #346
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Isn't this bike on the road in Europe?
No, I think the bike has been only available in asian and pacific rim markets, mainly Japan. Europe is getting the bike for the first time too, just like the US.

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Old 11-21-2012, 07:33 AM   #347
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Probably the best source to get an answer would be a dealer or owner in Australia.
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:41 AM   #348
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Probably the best source to get an answer would be a dealer or owner in Australia.
Yabbut wouldn't I have to turn my computer upside down to send an email to them?
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:17 AM   #349
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The reason I question hte single throttle body is, I've seen it listed online as a single 36mm throttle body. Most 4s have a 36mm carb for each cylinder. It just doesn't seem big enough to me.
The Honda site spec sheet says 32mm throttle bodies.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:23 AM   #350
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The Honda site spec sheet says 32mm throttle bodies.
Yep,
http://powersports.honda.com/2013/cb...fications.aspx
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:48 AM   #351
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I owned a string of Honda fours "back in the day" ... a 350-4, 400-4 and then a CB900F (my first new bike) that I put about 50K miles on (also a first-year VF750 Interceptor). So I was pretty interested in this bike, and had a chance to check it out and sit on it at the bike show here last weekend. First of all, despite the 4-1 pipe, this is really a retro K-model "standard", not an F-model SuperSport. Lots of chrome, small tank, etc. However, the footpeg position feels more rearset than the originals, like the European Sport Control Kit offered as an option on the DOHC SuperSports in the early '80's. I am about 5'11" and 32" inseam and at least for a few minutes sitting on the bike at the show, the riding position felt perfect. Seat height is low and the bike felt light and easy to lean compared to all the tall ADV bikes I sat on (and the Wee I rode to the show and back). Fit and finish are very nice.

So what's not to like? Well, my old CB900F had a 5+ US gallon tank, and I think 3.9 gallons is too small. That's about it. The chrome is not to my taste, but it's easy to clean and could always be refinished if the aftermarket doesn't provide options. The American Honda guy at the show told me that the 500's will be readily available in volume, but if youwant an 1100, get an order in now.

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Old 11-21-2012, 01:22 PM   #352
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Thanks for the tip. I have emailed three dealers in Australia inquiring about valve adjustments. If I receive an answer I will post this information for all interested prospective owners.
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:03 PM   #353
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May or may not be relevant, but my 09 Honda CBF1000 (I-4, FI, similar power) has shims, and valve checks at 16,000 miles / 24,000 kilometers, and I doubt the CB1100 is much different.
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Old 11-22-2012, 05:22 AM   #354
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Shim under bucket

I just received an email from Chris Clohessy at Honda Shop Group in Midland Western Australia. He advises the valve adjustment on the 2013 CB1100 is shim under bucket.
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Old 11-22-2012, 05:49 AM   #355
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May or may not be relevant, but my 09 Honda CBF1000 (I-4, FI, similar power) has shims, and valve checks at 16,000 miles / 24,000 kilometers, and I doubt the CB1100 is much different.
CBF1000 is fully liquid cooled engine...might not be same. CBF actually ex-Blade motor based, CB1100F - no idea, I looked all engine over and it closest resemblance with old CB aircooled il4s.
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:31 AM   #356
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I just received an email from Chris Clohessy at Honda Shop Group in Midland Western Australia. He advises the valve adjustment on the 2013 CB1100 is shim under bucket.
Wow, I hope that's not correct. That would mean the cams have to come out to swap shims. Not the end of the world, but that makes adjustments more difficult. I don't really understand why they would go with this design, isn't that usually reserved for engines with more radical cams or that operate at really high rpm so the shims aren't spit out?
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:45 AM   #357
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Its way more precise and adjustment intervals are spaced farther apart. Probably every 16000 miles.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:48 AM   #358
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black and chrome

Really I'm just trying to put together half this amount and get the best lightly used 'standard' type I can with no payments.
But if they bring this version to the states (bottom of the page image from this article), I'll find a way to make it happen.
http://www.mcnews.com.au/Testing/Hon...100/Review.htm

The red version they appear to be bringing to the U.S.is OK and the japan black version is kinda cool, but this with the chrome and black tank is sharp. Gotta have it!
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Old 11-22-2012, 10:05 AM   #359
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Honda should have squeezed another gallon into the tank. This bike makes so much sense as a bike to ride instead of look at or brag about. Throw on a fork brace and call it done.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:07 PM   #360
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Its way more precise and adjustment intervals are spaced farther apart. Probably every 16000 miles.
I can confirm that the valve check/adjustment intervals on the current CB1100 sold in Japan and Australia is 8K miles. (I've read the OM.) I can only surmise that Honda feels the air-cooled inline-four requires more frequent checks than their water-cooled engines.

Shim under bucket (requiring cam pulling to change shims) and an 8K service interval is somewhat onerous, although the lack of bodywork and a cooling system compared to modern sportbikes and sport-tourers mitigates. And if the motor is low-stressed, it should hold clearances and if you don't have to actually make a shim swap, the check process should be pretty painless.

I thought I read somewhere that it was screw/locknut, but I was probably mistaken. When I look at the profile of this engine, it doesn't appear there is any room for any kind of intermediate rocker between the cam and the valve stems. And shim-under-bucket has been the standard for both air-cooled and water-cooled inline-four Japanese motors for some time. I don't recall any new shim-over-bucket designs since the ZX-11/ZRX motors designed in the late-80's.

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