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Old 02-04-2014, 02:05 PM   #3886
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I will own a '14 DLX this summer

But of course I like the black one with the dark stars and blk'ed out motor better...shit!
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Old 02-04-2014, 02:25 PM   #3887
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Old 02-04-2014, 02:34 PM   #3888
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I was thinking how cool the EX with cast wheels would be. Then... Somebody who works for Kawasaki posted this pic on another forum. He won't say anything about it ( probably can't). I know it's not about the CB1100 but I just had to share.


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Old 02-04-2014, 04:12 PM   #3889
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2-into-2 looks much better than the 4-1 that was on the '13 model. And best of all, still keeps the center stand!

Unlike some here, I never cared for the 4-4 on the original CB-750 (and I had one, a '74.) 4-2 looks much cleaner.

I don't care for the price but then again, I ride a BMW, I should be the last person here complaining about overpriced bikes.
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Old 02-04-2014, 05:15 PM   #3890
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The new model looks nice. I like the dual pipes and am glad they didnt go with tube type spokes. I can see myself on one in a couple years but need to get tired of this one first:



it is pretty depressing to be taking a pic of yer bike in the basement
three foot of snow on the ground and below zero temps up here
no riding for awhile
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many thought this CB1100 was going to be a one year model
Honda must see some potential to bring it back with updates

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Old 02-04-2014, 06:12 PM   #3891
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I think it's the prettiest bike made right now in all the Japanese line ups. It's just a tad too tiny for me to fit comfortably, but I really like it. I'm shopping for a real sport tour bike right now, so it's not really on my radar at the moment, but I can definitely see owning one of these someday.
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Old 02-04-2014, 10:15 PM   #3892
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The black one with clubman bars and napoleon bar end mirrors...perfect bike.
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Old 02-05-2014, 04:56 AM   #3893
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All we get in Canada is a new color

It is a very nice blue, but I want the dual exhaust,
and would be happy to have more fuel capacity too.
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Old 02-05-2014, 05:49 AM   #3894
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American Honda did what I was hoping with the DLX..... got all the good stuff, rounded off the styling corners, and kept the tubeless. The $900 price hike is unfortunate though. I may have to get one of these.

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Basic went up $400 and DLX $1900,
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:29 AM   #3895
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Not sure but it looks like the deluxe gets the natural finish wheels and engine, bigger tank, different side cover, and abs.
If I can get all of the above without abs I will trade the '13 in.
If not then I will stand pat. The natural finish is what I really wanted..and wanted bad, but not at the expense of abs
I mean whats next, training wheels
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Old 02-05-2014, 07:59 AM   #3896
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Basic went up $400 and DLX $1900,
The DLX price increase is really $900. The ABS model last year was $11K.
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Old 02-05-2014, 09:08 AM   #3897
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The base went up $400, and the DLX is $900 more than a '13 ABS, but I would say, if we're to be somewhat fair to Honda, much of that increase (call it $400 for both models) is due to economic factors and the strength or weakness of the yen. So if you will grant that, the DLX is really $500 more than last year's ABS, for which sum you get an additional exhaust, a revised seat, an overdrive 6th gear, a larger fuel tank, a gear position indicator, revised side panels, revised instrument panel etc. It then starts to look like pretty good value for all the changes that have been made IMO.
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Old 02-05-2014, 10:50 AM   #3898
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The base went up $400, and the DLX is $900 more than a '13 ABS, but I would say, if we're to be somewhat fair to Honda, much of that increase (call it $400 for both models) is due to economic factors and the strength or weakness of the yen. So if you will grant that, the DLX is really $500 more than last year's ABS, for which sum you get an additional exhaust, a revised seat, an overdrive 6th gear, a larger fuel tank, a gear position indicator, revised side panels, revised instrument panel etc. It then starts to look like pretty good value for all the changes that have been made IMO.
This is a decent way to look at it, but you can't get over the fact that comparable models from last year to this year (the 2013 ABS vs. the 2014 DLX) have resulted in a $900/8% price hike in a time when bike prices seem to be stable or even dropping. For this, you do get some extra equipment, but as these prices march up, other bikes do start to creep back onto the radar scope. If you're comparing retros, BMW's superb Nine-T starts to look interesting at only $3K more and the price advantage of bikes like the V7 and Bonny grows quite a bit. And if you're not a confirmed retro guy, then you start looking at bikes like the FZ-09 at $8K. Even the S1000R at $13.1K doesn't seem like it is very much more. And then you look at bikes like the Ninja 1000 ABS at essentially the same price. This is a LOT more bike.

Honda has had problems in the past creeping its prices past the rest of the market. I think it's still in the acceptable range for the CB1100, but they're on the edge. The world has changed and today's motorcycle buyer is much more price-sensitive then they used to be.

The conversion from a five- to a six-speed is a bit of a puzzler for me. Re-engineering a unitized transmission is a tremendous expense, both in the design and tooling. So either Honda spent a lot of extra money on this brief foray with the five-speed or they planned on this from the beginning which means the transmission has provisions for a "drop in" gear since the beginning.

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Old 02-05-2014, 11:30 AM   #3899
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This is a decent way to look at it, but you can't get over the fact that comparable models from last year to this year (the 2013 ABS vs. the 2014 DLX) have resulted in a $900/8% price hike in a time when bike prices seem to be stable or even dropping. For this, you do get some extra equipment, but as these prices march up, other bikes do start to creep back onto the radar scope. If you're comparing retros, BMW's superb Nine-T starts to look interesting at only $3K more and the price advantage of bikes like the V7 and Bonny grows quite a bit. And if you're not a confirmed retro guy, then you start looking at bikes like the FZ-09 at $8K. Even the S1000R at $13.1K doesn't seem like it is very much more. And then you look at bikes like the Ninja 1000 ABS at essentially the same price. This is a LOT more bike.

Honda has had problems in the past creeping its prices past the rest of the market. I think it's still in the acceptable range for the CB1100, but they're on the edge. The world has changed and today's motorcycle buyer is much more price-sensitive then they used to be.

The conversion from a five- to a six-speed is a bit of a puzzler for me. Re-engineering a unitized transmission is a tremendous expense, both in the design and tooling. So either Honda spent a lot of extra money on this brief foray with the five-speed or they planned on this from the beginning which means the transmission has provisions for a "drop in" gear since the beginning.

- Mark
All fair points, Mark. As a current CB1100 owner, the only bike that has aroused my interest among those you mention is the Nine-T due to it being more than competitive in the power and torque ratings -vs.- the CB1100, not to mention being a great looker. I still have strong reservations about the BMW ownership experience, but the Nine-T is the first BMW in a long time that could possibly make me reexamine those reservations, which is saying something. The bike has undeniable cachet. As far as the V7 and Bonneville, I think the CB1100's price premium over those bikes is fully justified by its greater 4-cyl. power, and I would submit, better quality, perceived or otherwise.

I understand the economic comparison to the FZ-09 and Ninja1000, but most guys shopping the CB1100 probably won't consider those bikes because, as you say, most of those guys are confirmed retro guys, with a few exceptions.

I believe the CB1100 has one undeniable strength in the retro market, and that is that if you're partial to a 4-cylinder retro, it's the only game in town. In the eyes of some that might be a weakness, but I suppose it all depends on which and what type of past icons you're partial to.

The one thing I'm most sure of is that with the ever-increasing choice in bikes, these are great times to be a motorcyclist!
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I'd go even further:

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