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Old 01-15-2013, 08:10 PM   #826
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Wow, those are rear-sets.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:15 PM   #827
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Honda has't normally been a copy cat, but I wish they would copy the fake carb design used by Triumph twins. Looking at the 750 pics, the carbs are very evident and help establish the mechanical looks of the engine. Look hard and you can kinda see black throttle bodies on the 1100. The fake carbs on the Triumphs really help establish the retro theme, at least to me.
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:05 PM   #828
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Here's some decent new onboard footage:

Sorry, I guess they blocked the video.

Guth screwed with this post 01-16-2013 at 09:45 AM Reason: Video apparently blocked
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:58 PM   #829
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Honda has't normally been a copy cat, but I wish they would copy the fake carb design used by Triumph twins. Looking at the 750 pics, the carbs are very evident and help establish the mechanical looks of the engine. Look hard and you can kinda see black throttle bodies on the 1100. The fake carbs on the Triumphs really help establish the retro theme, at least to me.

That is a great quotation. On the Triumphrat thread the old dears hate the fake carbs almost as much as they hate the flange on the fuel tanks...I'd hate to design motorcycles for a living.
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:01 AM   #830
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Here's some decent new onboard footage:


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Old 01-16-2013, 05:05 AM   #831
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That is a great quotation. On the Triumphrat thread the old dears hate the fake carbs almost as much as they hate the flange on the fuel tanks...I'd hate to design motorcycles for a living.
I always got the impression they didn't hate the fake carbs as much as they just ranted real carbs, and the fake ones were rubbing their noses in it.

I think if you're mechanically inclined to know what and where they are and be upset because they're "fake", you might be better off with a "real" classic bike, rather than a modernized simulacrum.

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Old 01-16-2013, 05:56 AM   #832
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As far as styling goes, I think the CB1100 got it just about right. Retro enough to call back the original UJMs without looking like a carbon copy. Newer design cues like the heavily shaped and scalloped tank (vs the very simple design of the older tank.)

My only quibble - and it's a minor one - is the 4 into 1 exhaust. The swoopy-curvy headers seem to have been inspired by the CB400F (anybody remember that one?) I think a 4-into-2 (like the later DOHC 750's and the Nighthawk 750s) would have looked more balanced. Also the 4 into 1 leaves the left side of the bike looking a bit naked.

Still, it's a gorgeous bike. If I wasn't committed to my Triumph I'd consider it but at this point my thought is that (a) I don't want to sell the Scrambler and (b) I don't ride enough as it is owning one bike, owning a second bike wouldn't increase my riding time one bit.

I wish them luck though. In my dreams this would inspire a UJM revival from all the big 4, but sadly I don't see it happening in the land where the V-twin Harley Clone is king, and that's a damn shame.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:12 AM   #833
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I wish them luck though. In my dreams this would inspire a UJM revival from all the big 4, but sadly I don't see it happening in the land where the V-twin Harley Clone is king, and that's a damn shame.
If all the people that said they wish for a UJM revival would actually buy a UJM... then there'd a revival...
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:30 AM   #834
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Honda has't normally been a copy cat, but I wish they would copy the fake carb design used by Triumph twins.
It's all personal taste, but I don't like fake much-of-anything, whether it be carbs, hood scoops, or breasts.

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Old 01-16-2013, 06:44 AM   #835
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That is a great quotation. On the Triumphrat thread the old dears hate the fake carbs almost as much as they hate the flange on the fuel tanks...I'd hate to design motorcycles for a living.


I'm sure manufacturers have long ago given up on snooping for opinions on pre production bikes on forums like this because of all the nitpicking whiners.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:55 AM   #836
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If all the people that said they wish for a UJM revival would actually buy a UJM... then there'd a revival...
I'm doing my part

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Old 01-16-2013, 07:54 AM   #837
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got one a coming


Good man. See you out there! I'm hearing early April out here in MA.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:09 AM   #838
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Wow, those are rear-sets.
In my case, I'm guilty as Hell.....BUT.....it's -25C here. So, I have little choice. I post a lot less frequently between late April and early November, though.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:31 AM   #839
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To my eyes, Honda is just about spot-on with the cb1100. The only thing I would change is the exhaust system. It cries out for a classic 4 into 4 exhaust. Like this:



This shot, with pipes by Endurance of Japan, along with their side panel and tank retro bits, show how close Honda came to capturing the origional without being a clone.

Now, it looks BETTER than the origional.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:34 AM   #840
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To my eyes, Honda is just about spot-on with the cb1100. The only thing I would change is the exhaust system. It cries out for a classic 4 into 4 exhaust. Like this:



This shot, with pipes by Endurance of Japan, along with their side panel and tank retro bits, show how close Honda came to capturing the origional without being a clone.

Now, it looks BETTER than the origional.
I'd go with classic twin pipes, but overall, I have to agree with you that this bike is a very VERY nice blend of modern and retro. Honda could have done a lot more with colors, striping, and logos on the tank.

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