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Old 09-29-2012, 07:42 AM   #301
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The more I look at it and think about it. The less I like it. I'm going to take it off the bike in the morning and ship it back to them on Monday. I'll wait for them to fix it, or get one somewhere else.

I'm going to ship it back as well. Let's see if they make it right - I am thinkg they will and to be honest, while I would hope there wouldn't be issues i am not surprised at seeing issues from early manufacturing designs.
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Old 09-29-2012, 08:37 AM   #302
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I saw a comparison thread between the CRFL and WRR a couple of days ago and can no longer find it, can someone link me please?

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If you have the money and the inseam, go for the WR, if not you'll like the CRF.

I could afford the WR, but its way too tall for me.

I am really enjoying my CRF, it's just a really fun bike to ride.
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Old 09-29-2012, 08:45 AM   #303
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I'm going to ship it back as well. Let's see if they make it right - I am thinkg they will and to be honest, while I would hope there wouldn't be issues i am not surprised at seeing issues from early manufacturing designs.
Neither am I. Sometimes, the rush to be first in the market does not work out so well. I'll give them another chance. I was very happy with their skid plate that was on my KLR 250. It took some big hits, and did well.
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:32 AM   #304
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Just adjusted the rear shock preload. I chose to remove the shock. Using a 17mm crows foot made removing it a breeze.
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:09 AM   #305
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I've got one on the way, to be honest these welds look pretty standard fopr something thats going to be bashed around and abused a lot. They almost look like aluminum stick welds, probably MIG though, anybody that laid TIG welds like that wouldn't earn much money welding. As for the clearance isssues, well I've rarely orderd anything off the internet and had it be a perfect fit. I'll probably cut a little relief notch to get easiet acces to the filter, and tweek it out with a mallet fro a little more clearance, but honestly it looks decent enough for me, after all it's not intedned as a show peice, just there to protect your engine.

Oh yeah, my Giant Loop MoJavi arrived yesterday, am I eve rimpressed with this, seems real rugged, now I;llm be able o carry proper spares and stuff.

anybody got a line on stiffer springs for these??

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Old 09-29-2012, 10:17 AM   #306
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I've got one on the way, to be honest these welds look pretty standard fopr something thats going to be bashed around and abused a lot. They almost look like aluminum stick welds, probably MIG though, anybody that laid TIG welds like that wouldn't earn much money welding. As for the clearance isssues, well I've rarely orderd anything off the internet and had it be a perfect fit. I'll probably cut a little relief notch to get easiet acces to the filter, and tweek it out with a mallet fro a little more clearance, but honestly it looks decent enough for me, after all it's not intedned as a show peice, just there to protect your engine.

Oh yeah, my Giant Loop MoJavi arrived yesterday, am I eve rimpressed with this, seems real rugged, now I;llm be able o carry proper spares and stuff.
You will have to cut off a pretty big chunk to get to that last oil filter bolt. The welds don't bother me either, I'm not a welder, so I wouldn't know a good weld if it introduced itself to me. As for the clearance, I shouldn't have to mod stuff myself, that I bought from a company. I'm sure Ricochet will make it right.
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Old 09-29-2012, 02:44 PM   #307
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Thanks for the rundown. It sounds like a great bike. All the dealers close by sold their first runs of the CRF. Waiting for the next batch for a sit and hopefully a test ride. It sounds like a great bike. The DRZ is just a bit to tall for me and I prefer FI.

I haven't looked back through the thread, but I assume you have only changed the front sprocket?
Yes I only did the front sprocket so far. I put a 13T on. I will probably do a 42T on the rear too though now that crfs only sells them. After that this thing will be perfect on the trails. Top speed on road will still probably be over 70 with that gearing.

It sounds like you have similar reasons as I did and you will undoubtedly find a winner with this bike.

Good luck with your decision
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Old 09-29-2012, 03:14 PM   #308
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You will have to cut off a pretty big chunk to get to that last oil filter bolt. The welds don't bother me either, I'm not a welder, so I wouldn't know a good weld if it introduced itself to me. As for the clearance, I shouldn't have to mod stuff myself, that I bought from a company. I'm sure Ricochet will make it right.
Let us know what they say please. Don't wanna bombard them. Yet
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Old 09-29-2012, 06:04 PM   #309
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Yes I only did the front sprocket so far. I put a 13T on. I will probably do a 42T on the rear too though now that crfs only sells them. After that this thing will be perfect on the trails. Top speed on road will still probably be over 70 with that gearing.

It sounds like you have similar reasons as I did and you will undoubtedly find a winner with this bike.

Good luck with your decision
What are you getting for Top speed now, with just the 13T front? I mainly travel dirt/pavement and light trails, nothing too knarly (and if it is, it's pretty slow) Fantastic bike so far, my only issue is, For Example: when slowing down to turn onto another road, I find you have to drop down an extra gear or two ta keep the power to er, or if your clipping along pretty good in say 3rd, and ya gotta slow a bit for a puddle, you pretty much got to go right back down to first. It's mainly just a bit of getting used to after coming off bigger displacement street bikes. Do you find the 13T helped this issue out, if ya know what I mean?...Thanks
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Old 09-29-2012, 08:45 PM   #310
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What are you getting for Top speed now, with just the 13T front? I mainly travel dirt/pavement and light trails, nothing too knarly (and if it is, it's pretty slow) Fantastic bike so far, my only issue is, For Example: when slowing down to turn onto another road, I find you have to drop down an extra gear or two ta keep the power to er, or if your clipping along pretty good in say 3rd, and ya gotta slow a bit for a puddle, you pretty much got to go right back down to first. It's mainly just a bit of getting used to after coming off bigger displacement street bikes. Do you find the 13T helped this issue out, if ya know what I mean?...Thanks
yes. 13T will make a big difference in that department. It improved the bike greatly for me. I do ride fairly hard though and mostly off pavement so I will likely do a 42T rear sprocket as well. 2nd gear is still too tall for me for tight single track trail riding.

*edit* - I forgot to answer your question regarding top speed. Answer- No clue. I pretty much only ride dirt and occasional road to get a bagel in the morning if I dont want to start the truck. Plus I only have 180 miles on mine so I am a bit reluctant to ring it out too hard quite yet. I think I did 70 the onther day going from one riding spot to another on a highway. She still had more to go for sure.

Remember this thing is geared for MPG, period. It is not geared for offroad riding. Luckily though gears are extremely cheap and easy to install and the rest of the bike puts up with offroad beatings just fine.
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:15 PM   #311
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Fuel programmers for 250L

Hey everybody. Just letting you know we now have the baseline for a good fuel programmer at www.bestdualsportbikes.com. The on board A/F meter shows a consistent 12.5-13:1 ratio all the way through. The 250 with the FMF system pulls much harder now with the right A/F ratio. It is now 9-29 and we should have in stock to ship by 10-5. Cutting the backfire screen off the stock air filter helped as well as well as taking the snorkel out of the top of the box. it's pretty good left at this. Will dyno run soon.
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:34 PM   #312
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Checked out the CRF250L today, nice bike, dealer was out of his mind tho, he wants $5,500 out the door , right...

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im 5'9 and could flat foot both feet on the ground, fealt heavier then my XT250 for sure, and the seat is really hard compared to mine, but is a real nice bike, i wanted a test ride, but they wouldnt allow it.

Some other guy was there trying to trade in his 2008 CRF230L for one of them, but he too thought the $1,000 extras in dealer bullshit was not right so he walked out.
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Old 09-30-2012, 12:28 AM   #313
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Question Picked mine up today....

I have high hopes for this bike, and only got to ride it maybe 2 miles or so when I got home from work, but I gotta say I wasn't impressed with the power. I commute most days on my 650 Vstrom though, so hopefully it's just that I'm used to that bike.

I have a concern though and would like to ask the other owners on here, if you start the bike and just let it sit there for a minute, do your rpms vary while it's idling? Mine sounds to me like something isn't right, it will vary maybe 200 rpm (I'm guessing) , settle down for a bit, then just when you think you are imagining it, it starts to climb again, maybe for 10 seconds, then goes back down.

I'm not sure if it's because the bike was cold or not. I didn't think to let it idle when I got back from a mile down the road. My Strom is FI and I love it, when started cold it runs a bit fast for 10-15 seconds maybe then settles in after warming a bit, but it's never done the "varying" thing....

I plan to ride it a good bit more tomorrow, hopefully it will sort itself out, but let me know if you guys think this is something I need to look into or if you have had a similar experience.

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Old 09-30-2012, 05:40 AM   #314
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Hey bob80 I have had the 13 tooth front on for about 2 weeks now and I definitely agree with downstater. 13 in the front made a world of difference compared to the 14 in the gear shifting department. On the street (only place I've been able to test the 13 so far) 1 st is now just for stop signs and lights, in 2nd or 3rd I can pretty much bring it to a bog, roll on the throttle and she pulls right back up.

My max according to the garmin is 77.5 and I know there was more there( maybe not a ton) but at that speed the front end with that giant fender starts catching a lot of air and it a little bit spooky.
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Old 09-30-2012, 06:58 AM   #315
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I have high hopes for this bike, and only got to ride it maybe 2 miles or so when I got home from work, but I gotta say I wasn't impressed with the power. I commute most days on my 650 Vstrom though, so hopefully it's just that I'm used to that bike.

I have a concern though and would like to ask the other owners on here, if you start the bike and just let it sit there for a minute, do your rpms vary while it's idling? Mine sounds to me like something isn't right, it will vary maybe 200 rpm (I'm guessing) , settle down for a bit, then just when you think you are imagining it, it starts to climb again, maybe for 10 seconds, then goes back down.

I'm not sure if it's because the bike was cold or not. I didn't think to let it idle when I got back from a mile down the road. My Strom is FI and I love it, when started cold it runs a bit fast for 10-15 seconds maybe then settles in after warming a bit, but it's never done the "varying" thing....

I plan to ride it a good bit more tomorrow, hopefully it will sort itself out, but let me know if you guys think this is something I need to look into or if you have had a similar experience.

Thanks!
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1. Your bike is fine. Fi will vary rpms upon startup.

2. The only problem I see is comparing this bike to a 650 twin road bike. All do respect... That's just silly. Perhaps this was not the best bike for you if you were expecting 650 power from a 250 dirt oriented single. If you keep the bike and intend to ride it off road I would highly suggest a regear. It is cheap and easy and makes a world of difference. Honda built these bikes to deliver good performance on road and off but almost more importantly, high mpg. This is why the gearing is so tall from the factory.
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