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Old 07-20-2013, 10:17 AM   #5461
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Hello yall. wanted to say thank you to every one in this forum all of your posts have been crucial to helping me decide to purchase my brand new 2014 crfl. i have in the last 2 weeks ridden 1500 miles on it and very much enjoying it. i live in central texas where the speed limit on the roads can get to 85 mph (i haven't had to ride that stretch yet) but my normal commute (60 mile R/T) is painless and comfy as this bike will do those speeds in most cases very comfortably. i am new to off road riding and am still building my confidence in rough terrain and sandy conditions. my previous bikes have been street bikes with the acceptation of a 73 KE175.

now a couple of questions.

UHas any one had any experience with the bikeracks brand I have tried to search the forum but have not been able to find any thing of significance. I have ordered one and will see how it works out.
And I was thinking of replacing my tires with some Kendall brand tires that are rated 50/50. As I am quickly burning through the factory originals. Any suggestions? I am not a fan of the tires that look like street tires (only concerned with the off road traction there) again any suggestions are appreciated and thank again for all the helpful information.

Oh one other question what happens if you do not adjust the valves?
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I opted to wear out the rear first, I hate taking off a good tire. I went with a D606, but I would suggest asking around your local area, as they have a better idea of what works on your terrain.
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Old 07-20-2013, 10:52 AM   #5462
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Hello yall. wanted to say thank you to every one in this forum all of your posts have been crucial to helping me decide to purchase my brand new 2014 crfl. i have in the last 2 weeks ridden 1500 miles on it and very much enjoying it. i live in central texas where the speed limit on the roads can get to 85 mph (i haven't had to ride that stretch yet) but my normal commute (60 mile R/T) is painless and comfy as this bike will do those speeds in most cases very comfortably. i am new to off road riding and am still building my confidence in rough terrain and sandy conditions. my previous bikes have been street bikes with the acceptation of a 73 KE175.

now a couple of questions.

UHas any one had any experience with the bikeracks brand I have tried to search the forum but have not been able to find any thing of significance. I have ordered one and will see how it works out.
And I was thinking of replacing my tires with some Kendall brand tires that are rated 50/50. As I am quickly burning through the factory originals. Any suggestions? I am not a fan of the tires that look like street tires (only concerned with the off road traction there) again any suggestions are appreciated and thank again for all the helpful information.

Oh one other question what happens if you do not adjust the valves?
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On your valves, you can burn a valve as clearance goes away and the valve is help open longer, but usually the bike quits starting...or at least starting less easily due to loss of necessary starting compression.
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Old 07-20-2013, 10:58 AM   #5463
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I opted to wear out the rear first, I hate taking off a good tire. I went with a D606, but I would suggest asking around your local area, as they have a better idea of what works on your terrain.
Thank you for the sugestion. I checked into the dun lops but the don't ofer anything in the factory size. My major concern is buying a tire that will work well and not change the ride carictoristics and speedometer maybe more than 3%. One big issue is that Honda has used 2 different tire sizes front and rear ( witch is normal for bikes i know) with different size designation. Grrr. Makes it tricky to find a matching set of tires that meet the original equipment specs. Using that size adds almost 1" to the over all size for an increase of 3.7%. What I need is a calculator that will convert between the 2 sizing systems. I suspect changing the front tire size is not as critical for the speedo.
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Old 07-20-2013, 11:00 AM   #5464
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On your valves, you can burn a valve as clearance goes away and the valve is help open longer, but usually the bike quits starting...or at least starting less easily due to loss of necessary starting compression.
I see but will not cause any real damage?
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Old 07-20-2013, 11:17 AM   #5465
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I see but will not cause any real damage?
Burning a valve IS real damage. Preventative maintenance is WAY less money than fixing after it's trashed. My first service (oil/filter/valve check) at the dealer was $198 @ 600 miles. They only said valves were "in spec". There's a tutorial do it yourself on it here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...89&postcount=4
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:23 PM   #5466
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I see but will not cause any real damage?
Burning a valve is a pretty big issue. Pull the head, take it to a machine shop, install new valves, reinstall head. Looking at probably over $1000.

Thats assuming a valve doesn't overheat and break, I'm which case you would be buying, at the minimum, piston, cylinder, head, and all the stuff that goes with it. I have an xr250 parts bike in the garage that the po didn't check valves, junked the whole top of the motor.


So, pick one:

1. Check valves. 2 hours, max of $20 ish if you need new shims.

2. Burn valve. Bike down for a week, $1000 repair.

3. Break valve. Bike down for a week, $2000 repair.

I'll take option 1 every time.

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Old 07-20-2013, 04:27 PM   #5467
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Thank you for the sugestion. I checked into the dun lops but the don't ofer anything in the factory size. My major concern is buying a tire that will work well and not change the ride carictoristics and speedometer maybe more than 3%. One big issue is that Honda has used 2 different tire sizes front and rear ( witch is normal for bikes i know) with different size designation. Grrr. Makes it tricky to find a matching set of tires that meet the original equipment specs. Using that size adds almost 1" to the over all size for an increase of 3.7%. What I need is a calculator that will convert between the 2 sizing systems. I suspect changing the front tire size is not as critical for the speedo.
I put a D606 on the back of mine, and while it's true there's no exact size match you can go up or down a bit in aspect ratio with no detrimental effects. I put a 120/90-18 on mine, the only effects I noticed were better grip both on and off road, ordered it from REvzilla.com and got free shipping too. Little over $100CAD
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Old 07-20-2013, 06:50 PM   #5468
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What I need is a calculator that will convert between the 2 sizing systems.
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Old 07-20-2013, 08:27 PM   #5469
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I suspect changing the front tire size is not as critical for the speedo.
You're right, changing the front size has no affect on speedo readings. A 3% difference between displayed speed and actual speedis small enough to not eally concern your self with, at 65mph your looking at the speedo being out by about 2mph, which if you really dug deep would probably be less than the tolerances in the unit itself.
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Old 07-21-2013, 04:37 AM   #5470
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You fellas who have had this done or did it yourself, has anyone actually found any valves out of spec this soon ?
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:20 AM   #5471
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You fellas who have had this done or did it yourself, has anyone actually found any valves out of spec this soon ?
I have the same concern because I break mine in very hard. I think I am just going to bite the bullet and have the valves checked the first time and do it myself the rest.
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:23 AM   #5472
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Mine were in-spec. I did it myself, without removing the tank. Small hands help.
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Old 07-21-2013, 09:30 AM   #5473
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You fellas who have had this done or did it yourself, has anyone actually found any valves out of spec this soon ?
Dealer did mine, in spec.
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Old 07-21-2013, 10:44 AM   #5474
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Well I don't have an issue checking them I would just like to not void my warranty. Any thoughts on this?
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Old 07-21-2013, 10:51 AM   #5475
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Well I don't have an issue checking them I would just like to not void my warranty. Any thoughts on this?
You don't void your warranty by doing your own valve adjustment...at least I've never seen a manufacturer have that requirement...unless you break something yourself during the process. In fact most, maybe all, states have laws that prevent a manufacturer/dealer requiring in-house service to maintain warranty. I'm sure there must be exceptions somewhere in the mechanical world...maybe like Ferrari and such...but I don't think Honda has any such prohibitions.
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