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Old 07-29-2013, 10:43 AM   #5566
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Your fear of technology is unfounded. EFI is old tech these days, and is significantly more reliable than carbs. The Honda is a great choice for worry-free miles.
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:04 AM   #5567
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Juice,

Personally I wouldn't make the trip on either one but you sound motivated and it's really all you need. As far as these two you're considering, hands down the Honda. Parts shouldn't be an issue since it shares powertrains ,for the most part, with the CBR250. The only advice I can offer is to source a better seat for whichever one you decide.
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:24 AM   #5568
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Your fear of technology is unfounded. EFI is old tech these days, and is significantly more reliable than carbs. The Honda is a great choice for worry-free miles.
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:32 AM   #5569
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Juice,

I daily commute on my CRF250L -14 miles each way. With a few driveway mods it's a very capable touring bike. Off the showroom floor it struggled at speeds above 60mph but after changing just a few things, and breaking the motor in, the bike is brilliant. I highly recommend this bike to anyone who doesn't need 50hp. With a simple EJK programmer you can almost reach 30hp on this motor which gives you plenty of power for pulling on the interstate or romping through the woods. Many regear down to a 13 tooth but I personally dont understand why. I guess it feels more like a woods bike but I didn't buy it for that. Hope you find what you're looking for! Cheers

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Old 07-29-2013, 11:44 AM   #5570
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:09 PM   #5571
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I've given up on finding a 400lb Dual Sport to replace my car as my primary vehicle. I just can't find the right bike. Honda came close with the engine of the NC700X, but are going the wrong way with the 2014's that have 50 more cc.

I commute daily on mine, and extended rides on the weekends, to include interstate. With the 13tooth, EJK, and pipe, it easily soaks up 70-75mph cruising. I bought a cheap ATV seat pad at WalMart to cover the stock seat for 18 bucks, and it works well.

This bike has caused me to re-evaluate my garage. Watch for a 640 Adventure and an SV650 to be on the market soon.
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:43 PM   #5572
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I commute daily on mine, and extended rides on the weekends, to include interstate. With the 13tooth, EJK, and pipe, it easily soaks up 70-75mph cruising. I bought a cheap ATV seat pad at WalMart to cover the stock seat for 18 bucks, and it works well.

This bike has caused me to re-evaluate my garage. Watch for a 640 Adventure and an SV650 to be on the market soon.

The ATV seat pad sounds like a step up from my sheepskin (I live in New Zealand so the sheepskin is standard issue )- any chance of a photo of the ATV seat cover? How much did it cost??
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:45 PM   #5573
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I know, you'all are biased, what brand new bike would you recommend for someone not mechanically inclined and riding alone?

Thanks for reading.
Doing that trip on dual sport would be great as long as you know what you are getting into. Not sure you have had bikes. A car with a heater is sure tough to beat, but the bike could probably go places a 4X4 would be tested by. The money you save by not getting the car would pay for all the right gear. Being in weather can be not so much fun, even WITH the right gear. I agree with AutoX-Fil about the EFI, it's a non issue. Either way, have a great trip, I'm jealous. BTW ferry fare is way less $ with a bike, as is gas used, and maintenance, ect...........

edit: DR200se puts out 150 watts. CRF250L puts out 337 watts. Something to consider if you are going with heated gloves/gear/grips.
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:46 PM   #5574
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The ATV seat pad sounds like a step up from my sheepskin (I live in New Zealand so the sheepskin is standard issue )- any chance of a photo of the ATV seat cover? How much did it cost??
This one?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-AT...ector/16777864
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:41 PM   #5575
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looks good- I wonder if they ship to NZ......I'm loathe to give up me sheepskin but it is getting pretty ratty....
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:50 PM   #5576
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looks good- I wonder if they ship to NZ......I'm loathe to give up me sheepskin but it is getting pretty ratty....
It may be better to search Coleman, not knowing what the situation is where you are. I don't have one..........yet. Going to try to get one tomorrow. If you want, I can bring it to the local post office, have them weigh it, and ask the various prices/time frames to ship to NZ, then let you know.

edit: probably need to know your postal code for accurate pricing. If you don't want to post it PM me.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:02 PM   #5577
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Anybody getting ready to get a new tire(s), 40% off Dunlop, 31% off Metzler. Plus 5% off of that, using those codes. Expires 7/31 11:59. http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...vid=1160297728
Looked good untill I noticed prices are the same as usual they just made up their original prices such a scam
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Old 07-29-2013, 04:21 PM   #5578
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Thanks for the feedback!

yeah, you guys are right, I have limited experience. And zero DS experiance.
I forgot to put down my stats
5'-8"
163lbs.

I looked into the EJK programmer. Very interesting.

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What actually lead me back to the 250L was the DRZ400. I thought I'd look into her because the displacement/weight/HP was golden. Like I typed, I could go with the high tech stuff for its warrenty life.

I could forgive the high seat, 2.8 gallon tank, bad seat, no 6th gear, and no hand gaurds, but I was shocked that the fuel economy is so low for a FI engine. 50s!

So I thought about other options that were similar. I remembered the 250L had a 6th gear, so I looked into her.

I was at a local MC dealership a couple of weeks ago and asked the salesman what was selling good. Typically, they say, everything. You know, to take away any leverage you're looking for in buying a bike, but this guy said for a while the 250L was donig real well, and that they had just got their stock back up.

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I'm over the small tank size thing.
You know, how some riders are like that with HP. For me it was more Tank size, meant a better DS. However, with just 1, 2 gallon rotopax, the total is 4 gallons for a 280 mile range.

I'll need a rear rack, and hand guards for sure, but other than that, I should be good. I plan on useing my sleeping bag and tarp for a more comfortable seat while on longer rides. If that does not work during the break in and trouble shotting phase I'll go with the ATV package.

Thanks again.

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Old 07-29-2013, 04:36 PM   #5579
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How did you get the Coleman/Walmart pad on your bike? I tried and the plastic clips don't fit UNDER the seat and don't really work on the sides.
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:22 PM   #5580
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Juice,

IMS sells a 3.1 gallon fuel tank upgrade here.
Seat Concepts makes a comfy seat replacement that doesn't raise the bike's seat height at all here.


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yeah, you guys are right, I have limited experience. And zero DS experiance.
I forgot to put down my stats
5'-8"
163lbs.

I looked into the EJK programmer. Very interesting.

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What actually lead me back to the 250L was the DRZ400. I thought I'd look into her because the displacement/weight/HP was golden. Like I typed, I could go with the high tech stuff for its warrenty life.

I could forgive the high seat, 2.8 gallon tank, bad seat, no 6th gear, and no hand gaurds, but I was shocked that the fuel economy is so low for a FI engine. 50s!

So I thought about other options that were similar. I remembered the 250L had a 6th gear, so I looked into her.

I was at a local MC dealership a couple of weeks ago and asked the salesman what was selling good. Typically, they say, everything. You know, to take away any leverage you're looking for in buying a bike, but this guy said for a while the 250L was donig real well, and that they had just got their stock back up.

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I'm over the small tank size thing.
You know, how some riders are like that with HP. For me it was more Tank size, meant a better DS. However, with just 1, 2 gallon rotopax, the total is 4 gallons for a 280 mile range.

I'll need a rear rack, and hand guards for sure, but other than that, I should be good. I plan on useing my sleeping bag and tarp for a more comfortable seat while on longer rides. If that does not work during the break in and trouble shotting phase I'll go with the ATV package.

Thanks again.
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