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Old 11-02-2013, 07:40 PM   #6556
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more details to fallow if anyone is interested ......


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Old 11-02-2013, 08:38 PM   #6557
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So what's the big deal, gnath?...a KLX with a B&B sticker on it.

Looking forward to hearing how it performs.
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Old 11-02-2013, 09:08 PM   #6558
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So what's the big deal, gnath?...a KLX with a B&B sticker on it.

Looking forward to hearing how it performs.
lol .... no big deal but, All I have done was putt it around taking my time to break it in properly.
According to the dyno I am up to about 26 HP now with the 305

I just thought if anyone is interested I could share my thoughts on this as I gain a little more seat time.

I can only comment on my impressions and satisfaction as I did not install this myself and am by no means an expert or mechanic. I just wanted a little more power under my butt !!! ....
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Old 11-02-2013, 10:45 PM   #6559
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^ I'm considering doing a 305 kit this winter, so I'm eager to hear your impressions with it.
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Old 11-03-2013, 05:59 AM   #6560
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Hey John, what fairing is that?
ADVmonster Dual Sport fairing

Was considering offering a bolt on kit for the L, including fender and gauge mount. Will see how the wife likes it on the bike. The faring has worked great on other bikes it has been mounted on, from a XT225 to a 950se.


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Old 11-03-2013, 06:20 AM   #6561
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ADVmonster Dual Sport fairing

Was considering offering a bolt on kit for the L, including fender and gauge mount. Will see how the wife likes it on the bike. The faring has worked great on other bikes it has been mounted on, from a XT225 to a 950se.

any chance of a one time deal only for the crf250l thread guys??( hint hint?)
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Old 11-03-2013, 07:49 AM   #6562
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any chance of a one time deal only for the crf250l thread guys??( hint hint?)
Absolutely, if anyone is interested please send pm or email (sandjoh@gmail.com).
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Old 11-03-2013, 09:16 AM   #6563
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Wolfman side racks

Managed to get a set of the Wolfman sideracks before they are extinct!

As expected they fitted perfectly and I managed to keep my nomadic rack as well - just needed 2 longer bolts and a smaller spacer on one side, def a result as I was expecting to have to sell the rack as it wouldnt fit with the side racks.

I bought a set of the expedition dry side bags (which wont be used 'til next year now, and also a set of the small hoop bags for everyday use, these are pictured below.
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Old 11-03-2013, 02:11 PM   #6564
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305 First impressions

I have still been taking it very easy .... about 37 miles on it now with 4 different rides. I still am not too sure/confident about this but, I am being extra paranoid .... and not reving very high ... I think this last run was my highest and rode a little harder. Top speed about 51-55 so far. Each ride has been around 15 mins or so and then has completely cooled down before starting her up again. I also have kept all my miles on residential roads as to keep me from maintaining a steady speed. I am either on the gas or off.

Anyway .... this thing does have some power and will lift the front in 2nd gear at will without using the clutch and only a 1/4 turn of the throttle ... I have also lifted the front shifting into 3rd a little but, like I said ... I have been taking it really easy so far. As time and miles go by I will slowly start running her harder and harder.
I thought it would be hard to not use more than half throttle for a while during break in but that is not the case. The bike just moves along with ease. I keep catching myself trying to shift into 6th when I am already there because I am only going 45 mph. before at 45 6th would dog if you twisted the throttle but now it just picks right up and pulls along. I have some gravel/small rocky roads around my place and I can spin the rear wheel very easy in 3rd....

I don't think the engine is as smooth as it once was and maybe that will change with time and miles... It is not real rough or anything just not as smooth as stock wich may have something to do with the cylinder not being nickel coated ... It does not seem to crackle or backfire out the pipe as much as before either.

So far I am very happy and the extra power feels great ... it is a different feeling than just a sprocket change

I do not think it is running hot but, .... look how dark my megabomb is turning ....


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Old 11-03-2013, 04:09 PM   #6565
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Anyway .... this thing does have some power and will lift the front in 2nd gear at will without using the clutch and only a 1/4 turn of the throttle ... I have also lifted the front shifting into 3rd a little but, like I said ... I have been taking it really easy so far. As time and miles go by I will slowly start running her harder and harder.

I do not think it is running hot but, .... look how dark my megabomb is turning ....
First...the exhaust turned that color on my FMF very quickly too. Second . . .I beat the sh*t out of mine from the get go, and it is ok. Don't worry about babying the bike.

As for the rolling 2nd gear no clutch wheelies I have this bike too no way dude. Video?
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Old 11-03-2013, 04:10 PM   #6566
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your reaction when you first went down on one side(48 second in) then picked the bike and it fell to the other side was hilarious!
great vid by the way, enjoyed the whole thing!
Yeah, that sort of set the tone for the day lol
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Old 11-03-2013, 04:28 PM   #6567
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I have still been taking it very easy .... about 37 miles on it now with 4 different rides. I still am not too sure/confident about this but, I am being extra paranoid .... and not reving very high ... I think this last run was my highest and rode a little harder. Top speed about 51-55 so far. Each ride has been around 15 mins or so and then has completely cooled down before starting her up again. I also have kept all my miles on residential roads as to keep me from maintaining a steady speed. I am either on the gas or off.

Anyway .... this thing does have some power and will lift the front in 2nd gear at will without using the clutch and only a 1/4 turn of the throttle ... I have also lifted the front shifting into 3rd a little but, like I said ... I have been taking it really easy so far. As time and miles go by I will slowly start running her harder and harder.
I thought it would be hard to not use more than half throttle for a while during break in but that is not the case. The bike just moves along with ease. I keep catching myself trying to shift into 6th when I am already there because I am only going 45 mph. before at 45 6th would dog if you twisted the throttle but now it just picks right up and pulls along. I have some gravel/small rocky roads around my place and I can spin the rear wheel very easy in 3rd....

I don't think the engine is as smooth as it once was and maybe that will change with time and miles... It is not real rough or anything just not as smooth as stock wich may have something to do with the cylinder not being nickel coated ... It does not seem to crackle or backfire out the pipe as much as before either.

So far I am very happy and the extra power feels great ... it is a different feeling than just a sprocket change

I do not think it is running hot but, .... look how dark my megabomb is turning ....
Yeehaw!

You have far more self control than I do. Videos would be fun, if you can manage them. Keep it rubber side down!
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Old 11-03-2013, 04:37 PM   #6568
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gnath, as Lapchik suggested, don't worry about babying the engine too much during break-in. Unless you're just stupidly abusive, most modern engines either stock or modded respond to a more robust, aggressive break-in. When I was young, it was more the case to ease the powertrain into full tilt operation, but components were not as refined and tolerances not as precise. Pistons, rings, and cylinders tend to "bed in" better with a little more spirited operation than in the old days.

On the wheelies, what kind of gearing are you running? My KLX with a 300 cylinder and 36mm pumper carb will pull the wheel up in 2nd gear, but it has 13/47 gearing compared to 14/42 OEM. Regardless, you should feel a nice kick-in-the-pants with the added displacement. Have fun.
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Old 11-03-2013, 05:13 PM   #6569
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gnath, as Lapchik suggested, don't worry about babying the engine too much during break-in. Unless you're just stupidly abusive, most modern engines either stock or modded respond to a more robust, aggressive break-in. When I was young, it was more the case to ease the powertrain into full tilt operation, but components were not as refined and tolerances not as precise. Pistons, rings, and cylinders tend to "bed in" better with a little more spirited operation than in the old days.

On the wheelies, what kind of gearing are you running? My KLX with a 300 cylinder and 36mm pumper carb will pull the wheel up in 2nd gear, but it has 13/47 gearing compared to 14/42 OEM. Regardless, you should feel a nice kick-in-the-pants with the added displacement. Have fun.
I have seen two cases of failed B&B cycles big bore kits on the CRF250L. The kit does not have a chrome or nickel type sleeve in it. It is a steel sleeve I believe... I am not sure but maybe the ones that failed were not broke in properly. I am just playing it safe. Right now I have done 4 heat cycles.
And after a few more rides at higher speeds and RPM's for longer distances and time ran I will start to whoop on her a little harder. I do not baby my bikes but in this particular case I find it better to error on the side of caution.

As far as saying "know way dude" to the second gear no clutch wheelie ... even before adding the big bore with just the stage one kit and sprockets I could clutch it up in second .... I have no reason to lie or brag and have nothing to prove or gain. I am running 13/42 sprockets EJK's 305 programmer and had the kit professionally installed and tuned on the dyno.
I am just sharing my thoughts with those who may want to hear about it.
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Old 11-03-2013, 05:28 PM   #6570
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First...the exhaust turned that color on my FMF very quickly too. Second . . .I beat the sh*t out of mine from the get go, and it is ok. Don't worry about babying the bike.

As for the rolling 2nd gear no clutch wheelies I have this bike too no way dude. Video?
I have had that FMF system on there since last March. I was just pointing out how much darker it got with the 305 kit installed.

More than likely a stage 1 added to the CRF250L takes you from 17-18 HP up to 19.5-20.5 HP then after adding the 305 you end up around 26-28 HP ... that is a pretty good jump of 25% or more from just the stage 1.

I was surprised as well that it lifts the front without clutching it. I also was not trying hard to lift it and was sitting up on the bike too.

In short my opinion is it adds quite the punch to the bike but comes at a price of sacrificing longevity. I don't think it will last a long time but I am hoping for 2 seasons or 20,000 miles before it will need a new piston and rings.

I would not add this kit if I was an adventure/endurance or long distance rider out in the middle of nowhere. Or even if the bike was my main mode of transportation. For me ... this is my weekend play bike and in town fun bike. So if it fails its no big deal and I can always throw my old parts back on or rebuild the kit parts.
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