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Old 01-03-2015, 06:19 PM   #1
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F1 thread for 2015 OFFICIAL

It looks like the FIA has agreed that there's a loophole in the engine regulations which basically allows engine manufacturers to wait for as long as they please before homologating -- and therefore freezing -- their 2015 power plant.

Basically, the regulation never specified a date for 2015, presuming that the "last day in February" date that was specified for 2014 would carry over. Oops. Ferrari and Renault queried this oversight, and it's been agreed that they may have more time.

How much more time? It's up to them. Until they homologate a 2015 engine, they'll have to race the 2014 powerplant. So there's penalty for waiting too deep into the season.

James Allen's website claims that the latest Renault or Ferrari would wait is Round 5, the Spanish GP.
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Ferrari wish Michael Schumacher a happy birthday. Bittersweet, as the latest report about his condition is not a happy one.



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Old 01-03-2015, 07:37 PM   #3
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BTW, Honda obviously doesn't benefit from the flexible homologation date. Since they don't have a 2014 engine to run, what they put in the McLaren in Melbourne will be their powerplant for the entire season.

ps How funny that ADVRider's spellcheck doesn't recognize the word homologate.
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BTW, Honda obviously doesn't benefit from the flexible homologation date. Since they don't have a 2014 engine to run, what they put in the McLaren in Melbourne will be their powerplant for the entire season.

ps How funny that ADVRider's spellcheck doesn't recognize the word homologate.

I think I also read that modifications are allowed in order to enhance reliability. That means high power to start, and tone it down until it stops blowing up.
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I think I also read that modifications are allowed in order to enhance reliability. That means high power to start, and tone it down until it stops blowing up.
I didn't see that. Interesting. I'm having a hard time getting my head around the token system which controls what changes they're allowed to make. If anything is changed in the regs going forward, I have a feeling it may be those restrictive tokens.
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i guess i need to board the new thread....
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With the likelihood that Ferrari and Renault will delay introducing their new power units, I would guess that Mercedes -- maybe the Mercedes team itself -- will handily win the first few races.

Since the Mercedes engine was so dominant last season, and since it seems likely that its competitors will delay homologation, I wonder if Mercedes will also will take longer to develop its 2015 unit? They seemingly wouldn't have anything to lose by doing so.
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Thanks for the new thread, Wax! I look forward to Vettel, Kimi, and Alonso all being competitive quickly!
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Since the Mercedes engine was so dominant last season, and since it seems likely that its competitors will delay homologation, I wonder if Mercedes will also will take longer to develop its 2015 unit?
Good point. They certainly do have little to lose since the 2014 competition will be struggling to just make up last year's deficit. Rumor is MB has another 60+HP in waiting.

Honda's a different story but looking at the newly released pictures it seems to have the same traditional turbo layout as Renault & Ferrari which I believe gives them all the same big packaging & heat dissipation disadvantages over the Ross-inspired split turbo.
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Thanks for the new thread, Wax! I look forward to Vettel, Kimi, and Alonso all being competitive quickly!
Well Vettel likes oversteer & Kimi hates oversteer, not sure how Ferrari's going to solve that one?
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Thanks for the new thread, Wax! I look forward to Vettel, Kimi, and Alonso all being competitive quickly!
Marchionne had Ferrari scrap their new design, or parts of it at least. I wonder if that's good news for Kimi and Vettel, both of whom seemed to dislike their cars last year? Maybe Kimi especially should be grateful, if the original plan had been to continue with a design which didn't give him the front end grip he so craves?
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Well Vettel likes oversteer & Kimi hates oversteer, not sure how Ferrari's going to solve that one?
So Vettel likes his rear end planted and Kimi likes his front end planted?

I guess Mercedes showed last season that one team can produce two entirely different handling cars. In last year's thread I linked to a fascinating piece describing how Hamilton likes his cars very loose and unstable, the rear end prone to coming out, whereas Rosberg was much more conservative in his set-up.
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