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Old 01-08-2013, 08:44 AM   #1501
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Rear wheel horsepower #s from the performance index:
Sertao = 42.15
F650GS = 42.3
G650 XMoto = 45.5
TR650 Terra = 47.9
I was quoting crank HP, from the BMW/Husky literature, not having done the dyno tests
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:02 AM   #1502
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Eh? 0-60 & 1/4 mile times

Have to admit, I do like reading the MCN charts. Maybe it goes back to our younger years as we read car magazines like Motor Trend, Hot Rod, etc.

That said, guessing not many here are replacing a ZX-11 with the Husky...

Comparing fuel range, suspension travel, carrying capacity, power output, wet weight etc. should be the emphasis here.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:14 PM   #1503
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Have to admit, I do like reading the MCN charts. Maybe it goes back to our younger years as we read car magazines like Motor Trend, Hot Rod, etc.

That said, guessing not many here are replacing a ZX-11 with the Husky...

Comparing fuel range, suspension travel, carrying capacity, power output, wet weight etc. should be the emphasis here.
Absolutely.

I went from a 1993 Kawasaki KLX650 to a 2006 Kawasaki KLR650 and now a 2007 BMW G650X XChallenge. Talk about night and day difference. The X is over 100 pounds lighter with roughly 15-18 more horsepower.
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Old 01-08-2013, 05:14 PM   #1504
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The Terra isn't 10-15hp more

Husky TR650 - 58HP

F650GS 2000-2007 - 50HP

G650GS 2011> 48HP

G650X all 53HP
my math states 58-48 = 10, dont know about yours
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Old 01-08-2013, 07:30 PM   #1505
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my math states 58-48 = 10, dont know about yours
Your math is correct.

Unfortunately, the 58 & 48 hp numbers are both incorrect - marketing hype and not true real wheel hp. The actual rear wheel hp #s are posted above.
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:28 PM   #1506
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Well I'm happy with my Terra. 1000km in and it feels like it's getting smoother.

I did have an issue with an air bubble in the cooling system giving a false overheat signal. But that was quickly sorted.

Did someone say pictures? Our sea-breeze was in today so a bit hazy + crappy phone-cam, but hey it's a pic...

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Old 01-09-2013, 12:02 AM   #1507
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Picked up new Terra today , rode home in 32c temp then hit a 100km gale force N,wester on the Canterbury plains.
Was getting blown about all over the road so did the last 10km at 50kph, not nice
Bike was great tho before winds hit, very smooth , very fast ,gotta remember there is a 5th gear!
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:01 AM   #1508
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Unfortunately, the 58 & 48 hp numbers are both incorrect - marketing hype and not true real wheel hp. The actual rear wheel hp #s are posted above.
Manufacturers nearly always state crank hp not wheel hp. Not 'marketing hype' just a different measurement.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:27 AM   #1509
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Manufacturers nearly always state crank hp not wheel hp. Not 'marketing hype' just a different measurement.
Exactly, it's not "hype"...they're telling you the HP rating of the engine in your bike. Period.
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:47 AM   #1510
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Exactly, it's not "hype"...they're telling you the HP rating of the engine in your bike. Period.
Not disagreeing with you. I just know that the actual usable hp measured at the rear wheel by unbiased third parties like Motorcycle Consumer News is often quite a bit lower than what the manufacturer claims as hp. Just like the actual weight of the motorcycle most often is significantly higher than many manufacturers claimed "dry" weight. Or how motorcycle speedos are often optimistic when it comes to actual speed.

I understand that hp is lost between the engine and the rear wheel and that might explain the difference between manufacturer's claimed hp and actual rear wheel hp as measured by third parties. However, knowing that the above discrepancies exist, my personal preference is to ignore manufacturer's claims when they differ significantly from actual measurements made by credible, unbiased third part sources.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:08 AM   #1511
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Manufactures report BHP not Rear Wheel Horsepower.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:52 AM   #1512
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Manufactures report BHP not Rear Wheel Horsepower.
Most japanese companies report crankshaft HP. Brake (BHP) is measured at the output shaft.

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Old 01-09-2013, 07:38 AM   #1513
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Trail Boss thanks for posting the rear wheel horse power on these bikes.
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:15 AM   #1514
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rally accessories

Does anybody know if any of the parts on this bike will becoming available in the near future?

I know this one is the TE449 in Dakar dress, but I like the fairing for a little better wind protection and the skid plate. I am considering a TR650 this spring and some parts like this certainly moves me more towards that direction.


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Old 01-09-2013, 08:26 AM   #1515
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More fundamentally, will Jesse or Caribou have cases for the Terra?
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