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Old 02-08-2013, 12:29 PM   #1861
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I own an orphan bike. KLX's were last made in 1996. When I bought mine the Internet forum wisdom was not to do that. There are no parts or aftermarket available.

It was bull shit. Kawasaki make parts way beyond the legal requirement. But some competitor had not bought them out. They still manufactured a KLR that had the same filters, valves, carbs, clutches and other bits that allowed an owner to maintain them.

The first thing that became unavailable was aftermarket, then plastics and now engine parts.

I love the bike but won't recommend it.

I think the Terra/Strada will stay in production until November if Husky has a stockpile of parts. They will be mandated, in the US, to have parts and provide repairs for one year after.

If you are mechanical, like to work on your bike, that is probably good enough for a while.

Sorry to upset all you EXperts, by all means go buy one. More parts bikes for me.
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Old 02-08-2013, 12:41 PM   #1862
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So you think the bike will go away and that KTM (the owner) did not negotiate to keep on the best bike in the line they just bought?

When i negotiate, I go for the best cuts of meat and i'm not a pro negotiator.
Guess we'll see. Sure hope you're wrong.

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I own an orphan bike. KLX's were last made in 1995. When I bought mine the Internet forum wisdom was not to do that. There are no parts or aftermarket available.

It was bull shit. Kawasaki make parts way beyond the legal requirement. But some competitor had not bought them out. They still manufactured a KLR that had the same filters, valves, carbs, clutches and other bits that allowed an owner to maintain them.

The first thing that became unavailable was aftermarket, then plastics and now engine parts.

I love the bike but won't recommend it.

I think the Terra/Strada will stay in production until November if Husky has a stockpile of parts. They will be mandated, in the US, to have parts and provide repairs for one year after.

If you are mechanical, like to work on your bike, that is probably good enough for a while.

Sorry to upset all you EXperts, by all means go buy one. More parts bikes for me.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:08 PM   #1863
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All this speculation about what KTM will or will not do. Why not read what Stefan Pierer is saying about the acquisition.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...cle4386338.ece

http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/bus...s-_818643.html

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/0...90U1AC20130131
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:35 PM   #1864
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Laugh

Clearly the BMW powered bikes are done. They will finish out the year but Pierer has plans to go back to off-road motorcycles with the Bajaj/Husqvarna partnership.
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:49 PM   #1865
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:21 PM   #1866
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so you take that video as to him saying the TR will use a KTM 690 motor (reuse parts like VW) or he'll toss the existing bike all together? if KTM wants to sell more bikes why would they toss the best selling bike? so that leaves the 690 motor.

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All this speculation about what KTM will or will not do. Why not read what Stefan Pierer is saying about the acquisition.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...cle4386338.ece

http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/bus...s-_818643.html

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/0...90U1AC20130131
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:16 AM   #1867
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Maybe KLX and Mario have something interesting to add to this thread rather than Bomb throwing? Or .. maybe they should start their OWN thread.

TERRA OWNERS ONLY THREAD! See how that goes.
Theres no need to that. That thread is on already. And does fine.

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You are wrong.
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I'm not saying your statements are not true. They MIGHT be. Or MIGHT NOT. Fact is we both know shiite about this deal. And 99% of the commenting ppl know the same (including any journalists). If the deal is made on business grounds (and we know nothing that might prove it otherwise), any purchase was probably made on the future cash-flows. And to improve that, any business might either increase its sales and/or reduce costs. As for costs, Mr Pierer made it quite clear - to capitalise on KTM own accumen (especially R&D and probably production capacities in India). As for income - I can see LOTS of CURRENT cash-flow-ins coming from TR's sales. As for the FUTURE, thats what we BOTH dont know.

I do believe the prospective owners of Terra are entitled to get proper informaction to make their judgements. And you've expressed your view across the last 10 or 15 pages, we surely got it. No need to do that for the next 30.
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Old 02-09-2013, 02:46 AM   #1868
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:36 AM   #1869
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You are wrong. It is the wishful thinking and disregarding of facts that draw me back. Here is a fact. Rotax originally helped design and manufactured this engine at the request of BMW and was paid to do so. Rotax has not manufactured it in several years. Loncin manufacturers this engine. The whole design of this engine from the crank up is new. It is a BMW engine to do and use as they choose.

I can't foretell the future, just voicing what I am concerned about when deciding to buy one. I think it is something a lot of potential buyers should consider instead of relying on some anonymous voice who never explain how they come to some of their decisions or worse yet expouse "facts" that are just wrong.

Now I am done.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:39 AM   #1870
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so you take that video as to him saying the TR will use a KTM 690 motor (reuse parts like VW) or he'll toss the existing bike all together? if KTM wants to sell more bikes why would they toss the best selling bike? so that leaves the 690 motor.
The market place drives business decisions, so we riders play an important role in the decision making process. Pierer is saying he wants to use a popular automotive manufacturing strategy (lots of different models/brands from a common pool of components) in KTM's products/brands. In the automotive world, it seems to me, there is less of a connection between the vehicle's driving experience and its motor, than in the motorcycle world. For example we can see/hear/feel the motor more in bike than a car. Riders may become more attached to the motor as a reason for buying the bike. So maybe Pierer's plan will work, or maybe not, but buyers will determine the outcome.

BMW, KTM, and Honda have done a good job of designing lots of different models from a common motor/chassis. A brand like Husqvarna has a long tradition which attracts buyers. The motors in recent Husky bikes are not related to early Husky bikes. Maybe it doesn't matter if a new Husky dual sport has a varient of the KTM 690 motor with a red valve cover, it might even mean more buyers. The problem that KTM will have is to avoid increasing Husky sales by decreasing sales of its existing brands.
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:37 AM   #1871
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is see Touratech has their skid plate up.
http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/3...na-TR650-Terra

covers those lower lines nicely but now thinking those upper hoses need some kinda of protection. maybe a screen of some sort.
Well we'll well . . . TT are making something for the common folk - did I read that right - the bash plate is under
$500 ? - well done TT - nice coverage with that plate :)
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:59 PM   #1872
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The weather in Arkansas has been decent so I have got to take the TR out on several rides. To me it is the best dual purpose motorcycle I've had the pleasure to ride. Finished building my skid plate last week so I got the opportunity to take her on a rougher trail. Handled very well. I hope to have many happy miles on this bike. I plan on selling the F800GS soon, I only need one bike and this is it. In the famous words of John Travolta "I just want to ride man"
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:30 AM   #1873
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Old 02-10-2013, 03:04 PM   #1874
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this was posted elsewhere.
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=840187



http://www.nieuwsmotor.nl/motornieuw...husqvarna.html

Interview Manfred Grunert BMW Motorrad about Husqvarna
Thursday, January 31, 2013

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Today Nieuwsmotor.nl talked with Manfred Grunert, Head of Product Communications BMW Motorrad. "I can now announce that BMW Group indeed will sell Husqvarna Motorcycles to Pierer Industrie AG for an undisclosed sum. This is subject to approval by the competition authorities, we expect that within a month can be completed. Due of the enormous drop in the offroad market, BMW has decided to focus purely on BMW Motorrad, so onroadmodellen of over 600cc. never say never, but in the short term, BMW will therefore not return in the offroad segment.

The new owner will be responsible for the service of the sold Husqvarna's. At the moment he takes over the brand will immediately cease all involvement of BMW, which also applies to supply engines and parts for current models. All "expat" employees from Germany at BMW are still on the payroll and will therefore return to BMW. The employees of Husqvarna'll just stay in service.

We do not feel this as a loss of face but as a logical decision after the collapse of the offroad market. I know the circumstances under which other major engine manufacturers withdrew from an Italian company, but for us this is not an issue. Your remark that this is very costly for BMW I can not answer, as you know we do not talk about the sums of money. "

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Really? Everything that I have read stipulates that" the new company has access to all parts manufactures currently available to husky."
Where did you read your info? End:

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Parts yes, Husqvarna will have to arrange a supplier but complete engines for another model year not likely. Hundreds of posts on cafehusky.com.

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if above is true, buy a skid plate asap as the aftermarket is not often keen on making or continuing to make parts on a 1 model year only bike.
that lower mounting area for the front of the skid plate is very much unique to the rotax/bmw design.
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:07 PM   #1875
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That certainly doesn't appear to bode well for the Terra/Strada. But if I was in the market for one, it would only hasten my trip to a dealer. Even if it is a one year bike, it fills a niche that no other manufacturer has (lower cost, higher HP, adventure thumper). Better get 'em while they last!
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