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Old 03-12-2013, 01:22 AM   #466
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I'm very curious to see what other real world riders (not journalist's) have to say about the vibes of this engine.

Parallel twins are real hit and miss for me.
Love the character and vibes that the Ninja 250 makes, hated the way the Ninja 500 feels tho. Ninja 650 was about as perfect as an engine could be in my opinion. Triumph parallel twins....no thank you, didn't care for them one bit.

That's the big question for me, where is this new Honda 500 going to fall?

And another odd observation. I can deal with serious vibes from I4's and VTwins over long miles but Parallel twins are a love or hate relationship for me.
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Old 03-12-2013, 03:32 AM   #467
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I'm very curious to see what other real world riders (not journalist's) have to say about the vibes of this engine.

Parallel twins are real hit and miss for me.
Love the character and vibes that the Ninja 250 makes, hated the way the Ninja 500 feels tho. Ninja 650 was about as perfect as an engine could be in my opinion. Triumph parallel twins....no thank you, didn't care for them one bit.

That's the big question for me, where is this new Honda 500 going to fall?

And another odd observation. I can deal with serious vibes from I4's and VTwins over long miles but Parallel twins are a love or hate relationship for me.
+1

..but I sold my 650R because of the vibes..
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:52 AM   #468
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only thing i have to compare to is my SV650 which is a vtwin. vibes aren't terrible for me.. but i'm still relatively "young".
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Old 03-12-2013, 05:57 AM   #469
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only thing i have to compare to is my SV650 which is a vtwin. vibes aren't terrible for me.. but i'm still relatively "young".
SV vibes are great.
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Old 03-18-2013, 03:24 PM   #470
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Old 03-18-2013, 05:09 PM   #471
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Triumph UK seem a bit rocked by the 109 a month finance offer for the Hondas.

They are offering the Tiger 800 with 700 of extras, for 99 a month on a PCP.

Remember, the T800 was launched at 94bhp with an eye to the euro-regs; ie. they do a restriction kit of 50% peak power, 47bhp.

Over here we also have a Kawasaki Z800e (94bhp, same deal as the T800). No finance movement yet.

Yamaha have 'announced' they will do a 47bhp kit for the 600 Diversion. An answer for a question no-one gives a fuck about tbh.

Suzuki? Well, um, I don't know about Suzuki. Maybe a 47bhp Gladys, just to make it even more ghey.

Good news though, A2/47bhp/35Kw style, is that the Moto Guzzi V7 has been approved as meeting the regulations.

However, if you are in the USA all that means squat. You will just have to wait until you pay our gas prices to consider the 500s.

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Old 03-18-2013, 05:29 PM   #472
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However, if you are in the USA all that means squat. You will just have to wait until you pay our gas prices to consider the 500s.

Carry on
Negatory Ghost Rider, I plan to replace my Ninja 250 with one of the new CB500 Honda's or possibly the NC700x.

I have a givi luggage set-up Naked Bandit 1200 for Sport Touring or hooliganism. However, I mostly commute and the new 500's look like an excellent option by way of purchase price, insurance, maintenance, reliability, and real world use.

I'm glad Honda decided to enter this segment of the 'Merican market and I hope that they are very successful.

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Old 03-18-2013, 05:49 PM   #473
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Negatory Ghost Rider, I plan to replace my Ninja 250 with one of the new CB500 Honda's or possibly the NC700x.

I have a givi luggage set-up Naked Bandit 1200 for Sport Touring or hooliganism. However, I mostly commute and the new 500's look like an excellent option by way of purchase price, insurance, maintenance, reliability, and real world use.

I'm glad Honda decided to enter this segment of the 'Merican market and I hope that they are very successful.

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Jake, I agree with you.

I was being a bit naughty.

The key, for me, will be how valid the mpg figures will be when the bike is ridden hard.

If I can get 50mpg, in normal riding, from an 800cc bike, then I'll go T800.

But if the 500s get 75mpg even if I throttle them, then I'll go H500.

Triumph: 6000 mile services, great local dealer, love the Tigers, but allegedly 42mpg imperial.

Honda: 8000 mile services, awful local dealer, not a huge Honda fan (but own one right now), allegedly 76mpg imperial.

The biggest plus right now, for me, is that Honda are one of the few marques genuinely trying to attract new riders of all sizes, on all continents, and of both sexes.

Sometimes that why I get shitty on this site about the Ride the World thing. Thankfully, most people ignore me

Patriotically, I love Triumph. Riding, I love BMW.

But I detest the 'premium customer' bullshit.

It boils my ball sac.

Ducati is kinda premium; MV certainly is; Bimota is so premium you don't even need a brain.

But all these upper-class glass backs can't exist without a feeder class, and a good one.
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Valid MPG figures are an important part of it for me as well.

My 250 Ninja averages 60-64mpg (US) with my 6ft 200lbs self commuting by highway daily. If the new CB500 engines are able to match or exceed that while providing more Torque/HP for 2-up riding and legitimate wind protection/luggage options I'll sign my name on the dotted line. Hell, they even have ABS as an option here. I've never rode a bike with ABS but I'll probably spend the extra $500 USD and get it for shits and giggles.

Finally bikes built for everyday riders... What a concept, huh?

I have high hopes for these bikes, I hope that they don't disappoint.

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Old 03-18-2013, 06:41 PM   #475
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I'm shooting for a hopefully slightly easier target of beating my 52mpg average of my sv for daily riding. Our gas prices are nowhere near that of euro but I still don't like them with my lengthy daily commute.
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:10 AM   #476
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I'm shooting for a hopefully slightly easier target of beating my 52mpg average of my sv for daily riding. Our gas prices are nowhere near that of euro but I still don't like them with my lengthy daily commute.
Don't do it to yourself. A 500 parallel twin will feel like a sewing machine compared to an SV.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:15 AM   #477
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let's not get it confused, the SV is staying for weekend fun. i just want something for my 110 mile daily roundtrip commute. i feel bad squaring off my SV tire day in and day out..


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Old 03-20-2013, 05:50 AM   #478
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Any sightings in the US? Heard from my dealer that he expected the CB1100 on Friday, hoping it might have a 500 in tow
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The F and R are supposed to be out within a few weeks. heck if i know. haha. i will email my dealer.
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Old 03-21-2013, 05:05 PM   #480
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A bloke that posts on the NC700 forum got to demo an R model today (in the UK) and posted a little bit about it. He said the engine was quite smooth and had plenty left cruising at 75 mph.
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