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Old 11-16-2012, 01:50 AM   #121
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Too bad this bike won't sell in the US (at the price Honda would need to make a profit based on Italian manufacture.) I live in the Pacific Northwest, and with the fairing, this would be a very attractive bike for me.
Seems strange to me to considering you always got all the sportbikes and
faired bikes there, but not much of the nakeds.

That said, there's a LOT of Hornets on our streets here (and it's considered
by many to be the best 600cc/100hp naked), and I have yet to see a single
one with the fairing.
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:23 AM   #122
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The climate in the Pacific Northwest is much like that in the UK. Rain, mist, and cool temperatures (50* f) dominate for 9 months of the year. In these conditions, my personal preference is for a bike with a reasonable fairing. However, all of the bikes I've owned to date have been nakeds. I understand the trend; but then I like bucking trends. I'm an engineer, so I go with what works first. If it's pretty too, it's a bonus.

That said, I really do like the looks of the current CBR600F with fairings in the EU. I'd love to try one!
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Old 11-16-2012, 03:14 AM   #123
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I have yet to try a fairing that works for me, so I'd rather have none.
Clean air is more enjoyable then buffeting.
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:27 AM   #124
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I have yet to try a fairing that works for me, so I'd rather have none.
Clean air is more enjoyable then buffeting.
Exactly.

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Old 11-16-2012, 07:29 AM   #125
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Exactly.

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..and the wind chill difference can be fixed with good riding gear,
but I'm aware that it's often a hassle.

I've got a scooter now that brings the term "fairing" to a whole new
level. No wind ANYWHERE. None. It's amazing.


Still want a naked Bandit 1250.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:29 AM   #126
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not that I don't find the debate over the quality of modern automotive products fascinating (I don't), but let's try to get back on track.

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Old 11-16-2012, 08:34 AM   #127
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What I'd like to know is whether this engine is a 270 degree crank like the NC700X and triumph scrambler, 180 like the GS500, or a 360 degree crank like the bonneville. Haven't seen that discussed.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:42 AM   #128
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A quick google says 180
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:18 AM   #129
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A quick google says 180
Oh noes.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:12 PM   #130
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Anyone want to take a guess on whether the 500x will be comparable to the BMW G650GS? Would be almost $4k cheaper.

Thoughts?
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:12 PM   #131
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Anyone want to take a guess on whether the 500x will be comparable to the BMW G650GS? Would be almost $4k cheaper.

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G650 is more off road capable. Mostly in suspension travel and ground clearance. My guess is the Honda will be more reliable.

The cb500x has 2" less suspension travel than a KLR and 1" less than a V-Strom.
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Ok, I hate BMW nomenclature. Isn't the G650GS the "old" F650GS/Dakar thumper? Now called Sertao? Isn't the smaller (less HP) 800cc GS twin called the F700GS (formerly the "new" F650GS)? And the bigger (more HP) 800cc GS twin called the F800GS?

In any case, the Honda CB500X doesn't have anywhere near the suspension needed to make even a remotely valid comparison, either to the BMW thumper or twins. The 500X has a 17" front rim and about 5" of suspension travel, and maybe 6" of ground clearance (full specs out yet?). It is an adventure STYLED street bike, not a real ADV. And none of Honda's marketing materials say anything else.

People will compare them based on looks...they won't be able to help themselves. But it will be an apples-to-oranges comparison. Spend some time on the 500X thread. It is a better venue for this discussion.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:32 PM   #133
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Ok, I hate BMW nomenclature. Isn't the G650GS the "old" F650GS/Dakar thumper? Now called Sertao? Isn't the smaller (less HP) 800cc GS twin called the F700GS (formerly the "new" F650GS)? And the bigger (more HP) 800cc GS twin called the F800GS?

In any case, the Honda CB500X doesn't have anywhere near the suspension needed to make even a remotely valid comparison, either to the BMW thumper or twins. The 500X has a 17" front rim and about 5" of suspension travel, and maybe 6" of ground clearance (full specs out yet?). It is an adventure STYLED street bike, not a real ADV. And none of Honda's marketing materials say anything else.

People will compare them based on looks...they won't be able to help themselves. But it will be an apples-to-oranges comparison. Spend some time on the 500X thread. It is a better venue for this discussion.
G650GS is the thumper with the alloy rims. I sat on one today and I didn't feel like it had that much suspension travel.. The G650GS Sertao definitely had more travel but the standard G650GS didn't feel like much.

I'm thinking with money savings, the suspension could be fixed?

I didn't see a 500X specific thread, link?.. Nvm, I see it's in the beasts forum. Thnks
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:48 PM   #134
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In any case, the Honda CB500X doesn't have anywhere near the suspension needed to make even a remotely valid comparison, either to the BMW thumper or twins. The 500X has a 17" front rim and about 5" of suspension travel, and maybe 6" of ground clearance (full specs out yet?). It is an adventure STYLED street bike, not a real ADV. And none of Honda's marketing materials say anything else..
Absoutely.

It's a styled (stylish?) commuter-come-mini-tourer with good tank range, upright ergos, happy price, fully capable of being farkled for a 2-week trip if needed.
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:49 PM   #135
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not that I don't find the debate over the quality of modern automotive products fascinating (I don't), but let's try to get back on track.

Those crimped downpipes look the ones on the ER6N.

Aftermarkeeters will all over the front end (fender xtenders, bashplates, h/guards, screens, rad grills).

novice rider bonus: the turn signals are high up, meaning they probably won't smash in a tip-over.
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