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Old 12-13-2012, 09:04 PM   #271
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Old 12-13-2012, 09:20 PM   #272
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That kit from All Balls was for the previous gen Ninja 250. If anyone owns one of those my recomendation stands. The bike is far more confidence inspiring and solid with real good bearings in the head. My kid's 2012 250 will get a set too.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:42 AM   #273
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I'm surprised the bearings made that much difference. Happy for you that you found the problem.

Did you replace the races also? A lot of times those can be difficult to remove.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:42 AM   #274
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Yes, they just about fell out of the head and off the stem. A few taps of the hammer with a long drift and they were out. You must remove them to set in the tapered race.

Installing the races for the new set was the most time consuming part, the bottom one anyway as there isn't alot of room to swing a hammer. A jig to press them in with threaded rod would have made quick work of it. Still, ten minutes or so on my back reaching up there and the right socket and extension wasn't too bad.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:46 AM   #275
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:22 PM   #276
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I've settled on the Ricor Intiminators to sort the front forks. I can't find a bad review and the guys who went from Emulators to them rave too. Install is alot easier and they are a few bucks more unless I can find the right size on Amazon.

Anyone with experience with them on a Ninja 250? The website lists what looks like a 39mm valve for the pre 08 250s??? They had 36mm forks compared to the post 08 having 37mm. I have emailed them to double check the fit for the 300.
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:32 PM   #277
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Intiminators and Gold Valve Emulators do different things; they are not the same solution. I can't find the thread that explained it the best, but those who like Intiminator have a different goal than those who prefer Emulators.
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:36 PM   #278
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Well, I want to increase the ability of the fork to flow oil as it packs in multiple high speed compression. I have alot of that on the crap mountain roads around my area. I'll keep searching around but all I've seen so far is the RT is a good step and the Ricor goes to another level of control. The RT also relies alot on oil weight to tune it while the Ricor seems more shim adjusted. I haven't used either, and I'm pretty sure anything would be better than stock. I can brake dive it to bottoming too.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:27 PM   #279
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Area-P tuner is on the way to my door Monday. Their dyno test showed 38.5 RWHP with their full system, header and can. Baseline on a stocker was 34.1 RWHP. Torque goes up and is flatter from around 4200 RPM to redline, peak HP is at 11000-11,500 RPM. Stock it peaks at around 10,750.

I'm expecting similar gains with my gutted header/Akra can.

43 crank HP isn't far from the 45 I was hoping for.

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Old 12-16-2012, 08:06 AM   #280
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Area-P tuner is on the way to my door Monday. Their dyno test showed 38.5 RWHP with their full system, header and can. Baseline on a stocker was 34.1 RWHP. Torque goes up and is flatter from around 4200 RPM to redline, peak HP is at 11000-11,500 RPM. Stock it peaks at around 10,750.

I'm expecting similar gains with my gutted header/Akra can.

43 crank HP isn't far from the 45 I was hoping for.

Hey Navin.... I know your disease so well, as i have been a long time sufferer of it myself.

Buy... tune, tune some more, hot rod, reconfigure, and on and on and on.

I of course, will try to resist this on my 300 Ninja and do my best to live vicariously, through you.

If not careful, I could probably end up by spending as much on that wee bike as i did on my 690 Duke
which served up 64 horsepower in a considerably lighter package.

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Old 12-16-2012, 12:40 PM   #281
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Hey Navin.... I know your disease so well, as i have been a long time sufferer of it myself.

Buy... tune, tune some more, hot rod, reconfigure, and on and on and on.

I of course, will try to resist this on my 300 Ninja and do my best to live vicariously, through you.

If not careful, I could probably end up by spending as much on that wee bike as i did on my 690 Duke
which served up 64 horsepower in a considerably lighter package.

The thinks we do for love.

Terry, if you do nothing else to your 300, replace the steering head bearings. It is literally a must do.

How do you like the bike?
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:50 PM   #282
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Terry, if you do nothing else to your 300, replace the steering head bearings. It is literally a must do.

How do you like the bike?

Navin.. I will for sure look into the bearings.

As we have been getting some stupid cold weather, I will not likely take it from the dealership
until March/April. This will of course fuel some nice fantasies and also make the winter seem interminably long.
Of the dozens of scoots that I've had the pleasure of riding, I would place the 250 R near the top of the list for just
flat out fun and effortless riding. I imagine that the additional kick in the pants and the ABS, will just add to those feelings.

I'm enjoying your enthusiasm.
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Old 12-16-2012, 05:09 PM   #283
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I had a chance to speak with a US Ohlins rep at the Seattle Motorcycle Show yesterday. He told me that the Ohlins distributor in Italy has developed a drop-in replacement cartridge fork assembly for the Ninja 250R racing crowd in Italy. Ohlins doesn't make all of the parts, but apparently the kit is quite impressive. Contact Lenny@superbikechassis.com for more information. He travels 260 days per year, but will answer email as soon as he can. If I decide to go the 300R route, this will be my first area of inquiry, and to keep Navin happy, I'll replace the steering head bearings at the same time I upgrade the front suspension. (And the brake rotors, calipers and master cylinders, and...)
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Old 12-16-2012, 05:16 PM   #284
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I had a chance to speak with a US Ohlins rep at the Seattle Motorcycle Show yesterday. He told me that the Ohlins distributor in Italy has developed a drop-in replacement cartridge fork assembly for the Ninja 250R racing crowd in Italy. Ohlins doesn't make all of the parts, but apparently the kit is quite impressive. Contact Lenny@superbikechassis.com for more information. He travels 260 days per year, but will answer email as soon as he can. If I decide to go the 300R route, this will be my first area of inquiry, and to keep Navin happy, I'll replace the steering head bearings at the same time I upgrade the front suspension. (And the brake rotors, calipers and master cylinders, and...)
Engine, wheels and frame have to go too!
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Old 12-16-2012, 05:48 PM   #285
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I had a chance to speak with a US Ohlins rep at the Seattle Motorcycle Show yesterday. He told me that the Ohlins distributor in Italy has developed a drop-in replacement cartridge fork assembly for the Ninja 250R racing crowd in Italy. Ohlins doesn't make all of the parts, but apparently the kit is quite impressive. Contact Lenny@superbikechassis.com for more information. He travels 260 days per year, but will answer email as soon as he can. If I decide to go the 300R route, this will be my first area of inquiry, and to keep Navin happy, I'll replace the steering head bearings at the same time I upgrade the front suspension. (And the brake rotors, calipers and master cylinders, and...)

Good tip Thanks! I had another place that could convert any fork to cartridges too, I gotta dig that up.
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