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09-21-2012, 01:58 PM
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Gnarly Adventurer
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In my opinion, risers can be used to get the bars in the "attack position" for a specific rider, on a specific bike, with a specific bar. Some people can tend to go overboard with the riser/tall bars for my comfort zone.
I am 6-2 and below are my set ups current and some past: GasGas 280 pro- no risers, tag fat bar trials bend. 1974 Honda TL 125- custom machined 25 mm riser blocks with 6" domino trials bend bars. Husaberg FE 450 and FE 570 - no risers, stock Magura's, stock bar setting, with KTM hard parts PDS bar mounts. KTM 950- stock bars no risers. 03 drz 400- risers 1" high, 1" forward, RM low bend renthal fat bars. 04 RM 250- no risers, rg3 clamp, standard position, RM low bend renthal fat bars. |
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09-21-2012, 03:00 PM
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Team Listo
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09-21-2012, 03:28 PM
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The Pre-Banned Version
Joined: Apr 2007
Location: socorro NM
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I am kinda starting to wonder what ape hangers would look like on a trials bike
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09-21-2012, 03:51 PM
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Buffoonery, Inc.
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Location: Albuquerque, NM.
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This - ![]() ![]() ![]() I use risers on both my 4RT and OJ (pictured above). I'm 6'1", almost all of it leg. I was "aping" over the bars without the risers, very uncomfortable, not riding or turning well. After the risers, I felt more comfotable on the bike, which raised my confidence which led to better riding. I believe it was Mark Manniko that once said "Trials is 90% mental", and when folks are comfortable physically they are comfortable mentally which leads to confidence. Let the pundits argue all they want, set up your bike to your comfort level, go out and have fun!
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09-21-2012, 05:25 PM
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Team Listo
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If you are looking for true comfort, I have a really amazing recliner at my house!
![]() BTW Brewtus, that is just rudiculous. ![]() BTW, btw grizzzly, you are one of the biggest known trials riders. Do you use risers? Are your doorknobs standard height around your house? I know that bike set up is personal---- to an extent. By that, I mean that there are known things that work and those that don't. We have some great riders in our club. FWIW, I ask them for advice on lots of things. THEY are the ones that told me to roll my bars forward and flatten out the control levers. It feels odd at first, but it sure works! Not once has anyone that rides at a level higher than me suggested bar risers. ........but then, I wasn't asking about comfort.
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09-21-2012, 06:44 PM
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09-21-2012, 07:42 PM
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09-21-2012, 10:05 PM
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Buffoonery, Inc.
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As I said before, pundits. Gordy, are you forgetting how much taller I am than you?? Comfort and confidence baby, comfort and confidence. In other words..........
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09-21-2012, 11:49 PM
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Wonna Be ADVrider
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Risers? We don't need no stinking risers. Brewtus, your weird. Curtis, your right. I don't know anyone in the moto trials world that have risers on their scooter. Brewtus, your a freak.
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09-22-2012, 12:20 AM
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Location: Dunedin, NZ.
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There you are Riveratrider, aren't you glad you asked.
Thanks Brewtus, helpful as always. It's guys like you who make it a pleasure for learners to get in and stay in a marginal sport like this. I think if you want to run risers, then do it. If by having a comfortable bike, that you will want to ride more and get to be a better rider, then worry about fitting in with the "in" crowd later. I figure that with the amount of dabbing I do, they already think I'm a kook, and anyway, fitting in doesn't make you a better rider or more comfortable either. |
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09-22-2012, 12:55 AM
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Studly Adventurer
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If you dont mind about not being as competitive as possible, then fit risers if they make the bike feel more comfortable. But if you do want your bike to work as well as it possibly can, then take note of the fact than no one riding at WTC level uses risers.
For taller riders, the best possible option is to move the bar mounts forward, and failing that the bars can be moved forward of the 90 degree to the ground position thats best for most riders, but depending on the bend of the bars, this can mean extra strain on the wrists, so moving bar mounts forward 12mm tends to work better. |
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09-22-2012, 05:48 AM
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master of disaster....
Joined: Feb 2009
Location: nuevo mexico
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where can I get one of these?....
---looks like he's running 2" padded risers on this bad boy.....
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09-22-2012, 07:31 AM
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Team Listo
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Owwww, my knees. ![]() If I only had a seat, I would be comfortable and could ride more. Dabs? I don't care- it's comfy! See how ridiculous this sounds? Whatever..... Bring the riser bike tomorrow and we are going to work on loose uphill off cambers. (or something). ![]() PS I'm 6'1". Inseam doesn't mean crap for this discussion. Everyone's shoulders tie on at the top. If you had super short arms, that could matter. Inseam height has to do with seats. |
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09-22-2012, 08:19 AM
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Studly Adventurer
Joined: Oct 2011
Location: nm
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I read that so fast, I thought Gordy had the new bike!
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09-22-2012, 09:11 AM
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Team Listo
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