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Old 09-27-2012, 04:25 PM   #241
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I'm pretty sure I take an extra step to come across a little less intimidating to females. I'm 6'2", with a slightly post-athletic build . Twenty years of military service has left me with the ability to be fairly direct. So, here is what I do: I only take on classes where I can do both the classroom and range - this allows me to establish a relationship with each student prior to going out to the range. By the time we get on the bikes they know who I am, and that I really am concerned about them having a good experience.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:26 PM   #242
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Indeed. News flash- Whether you fall off a Vespa or a YZX1000RR, the pavement is just as unforgiving.

In Oregon there are three scooters (Buddy 125s) at every permanent site and two for the mobile sites- one is a spare, the other one or two are available to be reserved. Some sites the scooters are booked up well in advance.
Yeah ... physics takes no notice of brand.

I happen to know several scooter riders and if anyone said they were not riding a motorcycle a lively discussion would take place

AFAIK all the rider schools here have them and they are in demand.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:03 PM   #243
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Shogs, yes, they are ignoring you!!! This question is a controversial one.
And you can ride the wheels off a bike......which never hurts.

Understandably you treat males and females differently. Kind of the point I was trying to make in my round a bout OCD way.

I would love to have the time to do the Rider Coach thing. Unfortunately I am either working 12 hour shifts 6 days a week or knocken my wife up.....
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:19 PM   #244
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That's pretty basic...

But you MSF preachers still suck

Particularly the data guy who has never ventured much according to his profile. I repeat, anybody at all can be shown how to ride a motorcycle in a parking lot. If MSF instructors want to screen candidates for their convenience, I say they are impostors and their program is a fraud.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:34 PM   #245
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For clarity: Crash is in Idaho, the other non-MSF state. (Unless he also teaches across the border in another state.)

Sigh.
Trained MSF RSS...even got the nasty "you're all FIRED" MSF letter. AND the MSF finds our curriculum offensively similar...

As far as the "Sigh": face it, be honest, there's folks you train and your entire goal is not to get anybody killed. They're shaky at best and frightening at worst...but they get their shot and our job is to get them as far as they can go--safely and sometimes that means an uncomfortable limping to the end.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:45 PM   #246
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For those that suggest a pre BRC course; what would it cover that BRC doesn't already? BRC seemed to be about as rudimentary as it could get w/o having the instructors teaching it as if we were mentally handicapped.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:51 PM   #247
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Unfortunately I am either working 12 hour shifts 6 days a week or knocken my wife up.....
Aw, this isn't jo momma.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:52 PM   #248
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Particularly the data guy who has never ventured much according to his profile. I repeat, anybody at all can be shown how to ride a motorcycle in a parking lot. If MSF instructors want to screen candidates for their convenience, I say they are impostors and their program is a fraud.
Don't be a pussy. Who are you talking about?
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:25 PM   #249
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For those that suggest a pre BRC course; what would it cover that BRC doesn't already? BRC seemed to be about as rudimentary as it could get w/o having the instructors teaching it as if we were mentally handicapped.
The problem arises when six or eight experienced motorcycle owners show up for the BRC (so they can get legal with endorsements or get insurance discounts) and the one or two unlucky total n00bs in attendance end up at the bottom of the curve that the instructors set for the class.

Maybe there needs to be a fast-track intermediate class for riders who have bikes and are simply there to get the paper for endorsements or insurance discounts.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:36 PM   #250
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Don't be a pussy. Who are you talking about?

That woody fellow. His whole deal is to drive by and discredit a comment as he passes. Usually he is right, I might add. But he's not helpful in any way to the forum. In my case, I failed to cap the E in english. Technically he is right, but still just a troll out there with nothing to offer.

He's a pro troll, though. Nobody better at it around these parts.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:57 PM   #251
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The problem arises when six or eight experienced motorcycle owners show up for the BRC (so they can get legal with endorsements or get insurance discounts) and the one or two unlucky total n00bs in attendance end up at the bottom of the curve that the instructors set for the class.

Maybe there needs to be a fast-track intermediate class for riders who have bikes and are simply there to get the paper for endorsements or insurance discounts.
they can take the one day ERC (now called BRC 2) in Massachusetts & get their endorsement. Its cheaper, but you ride your own bike. Same insurance discount etc....

Of course if you happen to drop your own bike.... well that's a shame (and can be expensive).
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:11 PM   #252
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they can take the one day ERC (now called BRC 2) in Massachusetts & get their endorsement. Its cheaper, but you ride your own bike. Same insurance discount etc....

Of course if you happen to drop your own bike.... well that's a shame (and can be expensive).
There seems to be a rumor going around that lots of people drop their bikes in the ERC, which is supposedly part of the reason why we have so few people sign up in Louisiana (It happens but not often and I've never seen anyone do any serious damage.) I have also heard that we TEACH people to crash and require it as part of the ERC Probably started by the same clowns that are STILL out there telling people never to use their front brakes coz they'll go over the handlebars.
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:39 PM   #253
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That woody fellow. His whole deal is to drive by and discredit a comment as he passes. Usually he is right, I might add. But he's not helpful in any way to the forum. In my case, I failed to cap the E in english. Technically he is right, but still just a troll out there with nothing to offer.
Ahhh. Butthurt with a sarcastic [klay] encapsulation.

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Old 09-27-2012, 07:45 PM   #254
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For those that suggest a pre BRC course; what would it cover that BRC doesn't already? BRC seemed to be about as rudimentary as it could get w/o having the instructors teaching it as if we were mentally handicapped.
The idea is to cover exactly the same thing, without experienced riders in attendance.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:25 PM   #255
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That woody fellow. His whole deal is to drive by and discredit a comment as he passes. Usually he is right, I might add. But he's not helpful in any way to the forum. In my case, I failed to cap the E in english. Technically he is right, but still just a troll out there with nothing to offer.

He's a pro troll, though. Nobody better at it around these parts.
Come on...you failed to cap the E while discrediting someone else's English. You called for it.
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