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Old 10-03-2012, 08:12 AM   #31
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Well ...


Nos confrères de Oliepeil.nl ont décidément un oeil de faucon ! Le site néerlandais a en effet découvert, en parcourant le catalogue Akrapovic 2013, ce qui devait être l'une des invitées surprise du prochain salon Intermot 2012 : la nouvelle Yamaha FJR1300 2013 (ou 1400) ! Les vues arrière de la grosse nouveauté GT japonaise dévoilent un carénage modifié - qui augure donc une toute nouvelle face avant -, une boucle arrière de cadre renforcée, un pare-brise plus généreux et un poste de pilotage redessiné. Un peu court pour une nouveauté 2013 aussi attendue nous direz-vous ? Si la base technique reprise de la Yamaha FJR 1300 actuelle pour sa remplaçante 2013 n'éveille pas l'excitation, certes, on peut d'ores et déjà prédire, comme c'est le cas sur les premières grosses nouveautés moto 2013 détaillées sur moto-station.com - un package électronique sans doute très optimisé. Outre un équipement d'agrément conforme au standard de la catégorie - GPS, régulateur de vitesse, ordinateur de bord, poignées et selles chauffantes ? -, il semble logique que la nouvelle Yamaha FJR1300 2013 accueille à son tour les toutes dernières assistances électroniques à la mode : traction control, réglage électronique des suspensions, différentes cartographies moteur, freinage couplé / ABS, voire une évolution significative de la transmission automatique déjà connue sur la FJR 1300 AS et sans doute présente sur la future Pan European Honda 2013... Bref, si rien n'est encore confirmé, il apparaît plus que probable qu'une grande partie des équipements mentionnés ici figurent bien sur cette nouvelle Yamaha FJR 1300 2013. Mais avant de nous prononcer, attendons d'être au salon de la moto et du scooter Intermot 2012 à Cologne, la semaine prochaine, pour découvrir ce que nous réserve la fiche technique de cette nouvelle Yamaha FJR1300 2013...

Translation: "You can't afford it."

I was wrong. It only went up about $300.
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:33 AM   #32
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still a 5 speed. really no serious changes.
I like this comment from the FJR Forum site,

"The fooking thing has enough torque it only needs 3 speeds. one to start with, one for town and one for the road. I don't understand all the crying about 6 speeds. First and high are going to be the same no matter how many you stack in between."
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Old 10-03-2012, 10:53 AM   #33
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I like this comment from the FJR Forum site,

"The fooking thing has enough torque it only needs 3 speeds. one to start with, one for town and one for the road. I don't understand all the crying about 6 speeds. First and high are going to be the same no matter how many you stack in between."
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:12 PM   #34
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+1 zero need for six speeds.
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:36 PM   #35
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The European AE/AS doesn't have the cruise control, but it does have electronically adjustable on-the-fly suspension.

Come on, Yamaha, and bring 500 '13 AEs into the country, with the electronic suspension AND the US features... cruise control, etc. I'll buy one!
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Old 10-04-2012, 05:48 PM   #36
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The AS does have cruise.

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Old 10-04-2012, 10:05 PM   #37
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First and high are going to be the same no matter how many you stack in between."[/B
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:50 AM   #38
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I like this comment from the FJR Forum site,

"The fooking thing has enough torque it only needs 3 speeds. one to start with, one for town and one for the road. I don't understand all the crying about 6 speeds. First and high are going to be the same no matter how many you stack in between."
Umm... no. They are not going to be the same. When people ask for the 6th gear I believe what they are really talking about is one that is taller than the existing 5th, not about slotting another gear into the existing range. This, I agree, would be pointless with that engine.
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Old 10-05-2012, 06:39 AM   #39
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still a 5 speed. really no serious changes.
Yeah, whist commute'in on mine yesterday, I wuz think'in they should lower 2nd a little, lose 1st, 'n make it a 4 speed, cuz fives a waste!
Oh yeah...

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Old 10-05-2012, 08:15 AM   #40
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Umm... no. They are not going to be the same. When people ask for the 6th gear I believe what they are really talking about is one that is taller than the existing 5th, not about slotting another gear into the existing range. This, I agree, would be pointless with that engine.
I think the idea is that the 5th gear is the same ratio as the comparable 6th gear of another bike.
When riding my dad's I don't feel any need for a higher gear ratio, or one more in between. I've only seen complaints by people that don't own them about them having only 5 speeds.
Does anyone who actually owns(or owned) a FJR think it needs another cog?
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I think the idea is that the 5th gear is the same ratio as the comparable 6th gear of another bike.
When riding my dad's I don't feel any need for a higher gear ratio, or one more in between. I've only seen complaints by people that don't own them about them having only 5 speeds.
Does anyone who actually owns(or owned) a FJR think it needs another cog?
Not me.
Same with the ST1300.
Motors this big with Big Torque don't need 6 speeds.
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That's a very good point. 6 speeds is more about marketing than about function. Both my car and my bike have 6 speeds, but I can't say I'm ever thankful for it. It just means extra shifting.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:21 PM   #43
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I like it, but I don't see myself selling my 07 for one anytime soon. I have a few more dollars to spend getting mine a bit more comfy, then I'm happy enough.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:25 PM   #44
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Not me.
Same with the ST1300.
Motors this big with Big Torque don't need 6 speeds.
I just think that a big torque bike intended for touring like this one should have a 'cruising' gear that will allow it to cover the distance at steady 70mph or so with the engine barely ticking over. From the clips I've seen it looks like 70 in 5th corresponds to around 4,000rpm. It seems to me that engine could easily accommodate taller gearing that would place it some 1,000rpm lower at the same speed and that's why I would like to have that additional 6th.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:48 PM   #45
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The FJR has never been a bike that rang my bell. I think it's because I've preferred the Teutonic bike from which it's copied. Having said that, the improvements seem significant and I agree with the comments about a 6th gear not being needed.

Hope it sells a bunch and all y'all are happy with it!
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