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Old 10-21-2012, 04:00 PM   #61
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Suddenly it was much cheaper to buy a 1st gen, the extra money spent on a 2nd gen wouldn't get you more performance, but the money saved could be spent on track time and more mods for the 1st gen.
You said it yourself.. why would anyone spend more money to buy a 2nd gen that wouldn't get you more performance?
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Old 10-22-2012, 03:05 PM   #62
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LOL WUT!?

The 2nd gen 650 was better in every way over the 1st gen, save for looks, which are subjective. It weights the same as the firs gen bikest but they have a much stronger frame, which works perfectly fine with conventional forks, the only problem is that it chatters with USD forks, which it was never meant to have and only happens in racing.
Everything I've heard points to the Gen1 frame being stronger, as well as the crank and con rods. That's why they make a better base for the Superbike class. As well as having carbs you can replace with flat-slides.
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:54 PM   #63
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I just spent a few minutes looking at pictures of the SV650 and the Gladius. Pretty easy to pick out the styling differences between the two, but I'm just not seeing what makes the Gladius significantly uglier in appearance than the SV. Well, the headlight is a little silly, but overall...

They both look kind of like insects (but not nearly as much as the Versys, which I find to be a despicably ugly machine), but I really can't say I favor the SV over the Gladius or vise verse. Even had my wife come look at the photos I was looking at and she had close to the same comments, though she thought the Gladius was more appealing overall.


If I were to be presented with both bikes and told that I could pick one to keep... I'd probably wind up having to do a chant that contains "grab a tiger by the toe".
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Old 10-23-2012, 04:25 AM   #64
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They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I make just about any bike look good.




Just a fun bike in its element.
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Old 10-23-2012, 04:54 AM   #65
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I make just about any bike look good.
Shoot! Got that all over my shoes.

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Old 10-23-2012, 01:25 PM   #66
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a drain for the front cylinder plug, so the bike won't quit when riding in the rain.
The first generation had a drain for the front cylinder's spark plug well.

I will agree with you on the most part of everything else, especially that generation having EFI; which is kind of why I like the SFV650/Gladius, it seems like the best of both worlds in a weird way.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:11 AM   #67
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Bump...

No posts since October??

Anybody buy one of these? Any 2009-2010 Gladius owners?

Even with the over styled headlight and kinda steep MSRP, I would have thought there would be more love for this bike. The all black 2013 model looks pretty good to me (just don't call it a Gladius).
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:22 AM   #68
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Bump...

No posts since October??

Anybody buy one of these? Any 2009-2010 Gladius owners?

Even with the over styled headlight and kinda steep MSRP, I would have thought there would be more love for this bike. The all black 2013 model looks pretty good to me (just don't call it a Gladius).
+1

While there's a bunch of SV650's here, and people used to buy them new
very often, I've never seen a Gladius in person on our roads, and I travel
A LOT.

It just costs too much.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:46 AM   #69
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Now that you mention it, I can't remember ever seeing one on the road either.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:36 AM   #70
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Now that you mention it, I can't remember ever seeing one on the road either.
I have seen only one up here in Canuckistan.
Do not sell well at all ...maybe has something to do with "alternate lifestyle" colour theme.
I was at the bike show and they had a black one there.
Looked WAY better then the other colours.
I actually think it would make a pretty decent, easy riding mid displacement bike.
I had a Wee...not the best looking bike by a long shot...but an excellent bike with a GREAT motor.
I think I would take a Gladius over the Honda 700 NC series any day of the week.
There are lots of riders that value forum over function...I get that.
For me and others, a bike is just a tool for the adventure.
Hell, if I was vacationing on a nice Caribean island I'd rather putt around on a moped or scoot then my CBF1000.
Once again, I think the Gladias would make an excellent mid range all rounder.

I DO like that Guzzi 7 though
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:10 PM   #71
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I have seen only one up here in Canuckistan.
Do not sell well at all ...maybe has something to do with "alternate lifestyle" colour theme.
I was at the bike show and they had a black one there.
Looked WAY better then the other colours.
I actually think it would make a pretty decent, easy riding mid displacement bike.
I had a Wee...not the best looking bike by a long shot...but an excellent bike with a GREAT motor.
I think I would take a Gladius over the Honda 700 NC series any day of the week.
There are lots of riders that value forum over function...I get that.
For me and others, a bike is just a tool for the adventure.
Hell, if I was vacationing on a nice Caribean island I'd rather putt around on a moped or scoot then my CBF1000.
Once again, I think the Gladias would make an excellent mid range all rounder.

I DO like that Guzzi 7 though
+1 and the Gladius is probably a better bike then the Guzzi in every way,
and most would still get the Guzzi.


Problem for the Gladius here was the Bandit 650 naked which was
1) more power (and some people don't look beyond that number)
2) 25% less money

People who wanted a twin went for the ER6n or 650R, and the ones
who had money for a Gladius, bought a Monster 696 which costs only
slightly more.

Gladius is around $11.000 (US) here, and the Monster is $12.300.

If you can get up to $11k, you can do $12k too, and Gladius is an
obvious 696 copy. Sure, it's completely different riding experience,
but..

ER6n is under $9k.
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Around my city, the Gladius is not that uncommon ... the roads aren't crawling with 'em or anything, but I do see 'em around fairly regularly ... a guy I know bought one for his G.F. & lowered it for her ... am anxious to get a close-up look at that (& maybe a test-sit) ... in the parking lot of our local Kawi dealership last summer i saw a beautiful black/white 2-tone Gladius ... mostly black with white accents ... actually looked great!

Have noticed too that on the local used market, low mileage, late model Gladi-eye are going for very affordable prices ... cheaper than a compairable 650R for instance ...

BTW, I once borrowed a pals '88 NT650 Hawk for a Ride ... loved it ... how would the Gladius compare?
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:12 AM   #73
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Around my city, the Gladius is not that uncommon ... the roads aren't crawling with 'em or anything, but I do see 'em around fairly regularly ... a guy I know bought one for his G.F. & lowered it for her ... am anxious to get a close-up look at that (& maybe a test-sit) ... in the parking lot of our local Kawi dealership last summer i saw a beautiful black/white 2-tone Gladius ... mostly black with white accents ... actually looked great!

Have noticed too that on the local used market, low mileage, late model Gladi-eye are going for very affordable prices ... cheaper than a compairable 650R for instance ...

BTW, I once borrowed a pals '88 NT650 Hawk for a Ride ... loved it ... how would the Gladius compare?
It would probably be better in every way.
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Hmmm ... interesting ... have not yet had the opportunity to Ride a Gladius ... think I'll make that a mission come Spring!

Just browsing a few pics and the on recollection, the black/white 2-tone SFV I saw last summer was probably white with black accents and not the other way round ...

Now this one with a conventional round headlight would be dead sexy!!



Also, would lowering a Gladius be a fairly straight forward affair?
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+1 for the headlight.

..but this might be the reason for not doing it:



They'd have 2 virtually same bikes (to someone who doesn't know much
about them).
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