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Old 12-15-2012, 03:03 PM   #481
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+1 on needing to find some bags. I make bags, like the crash bar bags, but I'm still looking at options for side bags. If I could find a reasonably price set of bags, I could easily modify them to attach to the rack system. I too prefer a soft bag over the hard aluminum boxes or the large ammo cases.

I've been considering the fabric options for making a custom set, ideally a silicone coated cordura. We had a fabric coating manufacturer in CT (Amerbelle), but sadly they went out of business recently. I plan to make some calls and see what I can come up with for material. By year's end I'd like to decide which direction to commit to and get moving on making it happen.

I'm still pretty new to this "adventure camping" business and there's quite a learning curve. Camping for days on end with minimal supplies is hard enough. Combining that with long distance off road (international) motorcycling certainly presents another whole set of considerations.
Ji love my Ortliebs 100% waterproof and very light
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:57 PM   #482
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I have the non waterproof Wolfman bags and have no compaints. I bought 4mil ziplock bags that are the same dimensions as the Wolfman bags and that leaves me with lots of options. For one, nasty dirty clothes go outside the liners.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:50 PM   #483
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If you want to see the waterproof backpacks they are in Canton CT although I work in Hartford and can bring them there if that is easier. . The packs were exactly the right size, waterproof, very durable and dirt cheap. some one inch web strap from ace hardware is all you need to add. If you have racks already this is the best cheapo option. At least until you have enough experience to know you want to keep doing this
If they're half as good as they look and you say they are, I'm sold.
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:04 PM   #484
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If they're half as good as they look and you say they are, I'm sold.
damn.. I was looking forward to seeing what you came up with for hand made soft panniers Rob!! I'll be sporting the heavy pelican cases for the 2013 RR unless I find a much lighter option before then..

It seems like soft panniers that don't claim to be waterproof are not that complicated to make but the mounting system can be.. I would think mil surplus waterproof backpacks would have the same problem though wouldn't they?
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:52 PM   #485
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Lighter, cheaper (<$40 total) and very very waterproof.
Backpacks for cheapo saddle bags

Perfect dimensions and rubbery water proofness http://www.majorsurplus.com/French-F2-Day-Pack-P16337C2148.aspx

Toss the frame in the trash for this one http://www.majorsurplus.com/Swedish-Tubular-Frame-Medical-Pack-P16758C2148.aspx


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damn.. I was looking forward to seeing what you came up with for hand made soft panniers Rob!! I'll be sporting the heavy pelican cases for the 2013 RR unless I find a much lighter option before then..

It seems like soft panniers that don't claim to be waterproof are not that complicated to make but the mounting system can be.. I would think mil surplus waterproof backpacks would have the same problem though wouldn't they?
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Old 12-16-2012, 03:49 AM   #486
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I'm still pretty new to this "adventure camping" business and there's quite a learning curve. Camping for days on end with minimal supplies is hard enough. Combining that with long distance off road (international) motorcycling certainly presents another whole set of considerations.
This.

One thing I find helpful to get the size of the pile down to a manageable level is compression bags. Prefer these. Compresses my shite down to a smaller pack size and addresses and waterproof issues. I've used these strapped outside of a pannier in driving rains without anything getting wet.

My 2-man tent fits in an XS sized bag. Poles are packed separately. Bed fits in another XS bag. Keeps wet from dry in the pannier. Everything else I try to pack in XS compression bags. Several smaller bags are easier to pack inside whatever luggage you have. I've tried the large and medium sized compression bags. Picture packing a volleyball or basketball in your kit. Sucks.

If you have waterproof panniers (and feel confident they will remain that way) you could get away with the non-waterproof compression bags. Or like Boats said, big Ziplocks. Done that, too. I just like the fact I can get my tent, bedding, clothes, etc down to the size of a ~grapefruit with compression. YMMV.
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Old 12-16-2012, 04:13 AM   #487
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There's also an inmate here making and selling these tiny 'stoves'.



Sure. Anyone could prolly make one but with everything else you've got going, will you? Be honest. It's Christmas. Send him the $ and be done with it.

Two versions - one for boiling, the other geared more towards cooking. IOW, lower flame. Pack super small and are light weight.
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:42 AM   #488
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Old 12-16-2012, 06:45 PM   #489
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Spent the day getting this set up the way I want.








Is it June yet?
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:37 PM   #490
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I spent the day putting this back together. (not my RR bike)



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Old 12-16-2012, 07:40 PM   #491
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Hey Fran, I like how you were able to get that Tool Tube tucked in there nice & neat. I hope the new bike is treating you well.
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:14 PM   #492
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Hey Fran, I like how you were able to get that Tool Tube tucked in there nice & neat. I hope the new bike is treating you well.

Credit for the tool tube goes to Barman here on ADV. I bought the side racks from him that way. I'm condidering switching that to the outside, and possibly mounting the extra fuel canisters on the inside. We'll see.

My big accomplishment was mounting, and fitting it all up, then Frankenstein'ing the wide tail rack plate to my existing tailrack.
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Old 12-17-2012, 04:43 AM   #493
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Looks good . I still need to try that seat.
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Old 12-17-2012, 04:54 AM   #494
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Looks good . I still need to try that seat.

the seat is awsome. A whole lot better than the 2x6....

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Old 12-17-2012, 05:03 AM   #495
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Well I am lucky enough to have the dilemma of which bike to ride. My 950 would be more comfy for the ride up to the start of RR, but I think the 690 would be more fun once I am there. Since I am on team LC8 there is also peer pressure .
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