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Old 06-10-2014, 07:32 AM   #1
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Russell seat firmness

Generally how firm are most Russell seats? Are they firm like a Corbin or cushy like stock cruiser seat? I know they make the foam based on your weight but I'm asking in general. I tend to like a softer seat. The bike I'm thinking of is a V-Strom.
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Old 06-10-2014, 08:31 AM   #2
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I have one on my Wee and it's fairly firm. The key is the design and shape of the seating surface, it seems. Mine is like having your butt cupped in the hands of an angel, in the words of Big Dadddy.
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Old 06-10-2014, 08:52 AM   #3
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[JEDI]You want to trade me your Russell for my Suzuki gel seat.[/JEDI]
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Old 06-10-2014, 09:07 AM   #4
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Over the years I've had 3 Corbins and 2 Russells. The Russells on not as firm as the Corbins. If the corbin is a 10 on a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being plushy, pillow soft, I'd rate the Russell as a 7.
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Old 06-10-2014, 09:41 AM   #5
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I've only had a Russel (on my Breva) and blood loved it. Worth every penny I paid. They're quite a bit wider than stock seats (they have those wing things that support the upper thighs) which, in essence, raises the seat height by an inch or two. Wasn't a problem for my on the Brava but something you might want to consider.

They're not cheap but, if you're confident you're gonna keep your bike for a while and/or do some very long trips on it, then, IMO, they're a must have - assuming you hate the stock.
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Old 06-10-2014, 10:20 AM   #6
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Over the years I've had 3 Corbins and 2 Russells. The Russells on not as firm as the Corbins. If the corbin is a 10 on a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being plushy, pillow soft, I'd rate the Russell as a 7.
This sounds about right.

The RDL also makes an excellent scratching post for your resident feline.
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:08 PM   #7
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This sounds about right.

The RDL also makes an excellent scratching post for your resident feline.
+1, I'd rate it a 7 on softness, but a 10 on comfort! My Corbin is not bad, but it is heavy, tall, and hard, but it's got a backrest and though, dorky looking, is really freaking comfortable. But my ass still gets sore. With my Russel, my ass doesn't get sore at all. But then I notice that my neck, shoulders and knees are then the ones telling me to stop, not my ass.
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:05 PM   #9
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NOTHING I've sat on in 40 years comes close to the Russell. Softer than the park bench Corbin, but properly shaped for COMFORT instead of style.
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Old 06-10-2014, 09:59 PM   #10
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Dense foam is firmer. Soft foam has more air and less foam. The air gets squished out as you sit on it and then you have no cushioning. Softer foam doesn't last as long either.

The Russel uses springs covered with a firm foam. The springs compress to fit your ass so you always have support and cushioning.

The Russel is as comfortable as my easy chair at home.
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Old 06-10-2014, 10:14 PM   #11
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My Russell is way more soft than the cement block Corbin I used to own.
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:43 AM   #12
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Russell and Bill Mayer custom seats are by far what my customers use over all others. That tells me what I need to know.
I have both and both are superb seats. Biggest difference is that I can crawl over the bike in the twisties a lot easier on the Mayer. Comfort is very close-really too close to call.

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Old 06-11-2014, 02:50 PM   #13
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had several Corbin seats over the years, the RDL on my current ride is absolutely the best seat I have ever had.

No sore butt or need to squirm around on the seat.

Did 700 km on a day ride last week and was comfortable the whole trip.

My Russell feels about as firm as last Corbin.
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Old 06-22-2014, 09:16 PM   #14
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russell on ktm 990

I've had 45 bikes and RTW rider and i can say the russell is the best seat I've ever had. brilliant, fugly but functional. it raised me about 1/2 inch and looked weird with its ugly wings but its been an absolute bargain in terms of comfort and to me thats what its all about. riding hard and fast all day long with a smile on my face.
I'm now getting one for my ktm 690 that needs comfortizing.
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Old 06-23-2014, 07:26 AM   #15
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I've got 2 corbins from PO's, and I don't care for either of them -- too hard and not the right shape. My RDL on the other hand - built for me - is fantastic. I have dropped about 30 pounds since I had it done, the effect of which is for it to feel firmer, but it is still just as comfortable.
I agree with the 7-8 on the 1-10 scale. The shape is the key.

My favorite horse saddle is rock hard - but very comfortable for an all day ride.

As an evaluation point, I wouldn't let the hardness of the saddle significantly influence your decision.

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