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Old 09-30-2012, 08:35 PM   #1
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The Xt400 side car (winter project)

Well Its fall and I cant afford to build another bike this year so I am doing the next best thing. I am building a side car for my xt400 project. At least that is the plan. I am totally new to side cars so this could be interesting. I hope that with the help of some very knowledgeable DTT members I will be able to make this happen. My plan is to use parts I have laying around to build most of it. I would like to build a subframe that will bolt on my bike so the side car can be easily removed If I need to. I am planning on using the swing arm and [u]front[u] wheel off of an xs400 I have for the suspension. The front wheel is an 18 and it has a disc brake I would like to use for the car. It is also not as wide as the rear. From what I have seen/read narrow is better for the car, especially with small cc bikes. I turned down the rear axle on the lathe so it would work with the front wheel. I also had to make some wheel spacers. I still need to make a caliper mount for the swing arm. This project is in the very early stages so any motivation/inspiration is appreciated. Here is a picture of the bike and wheel. This is all I have so far. Ive done more goggling and reading than actual work so far.



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Old 09-30-2012, 09:39 PM   #2
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I'am in! Looking to build a utility rig for my xr500, I'll be following and watching for Ideas.
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:36 AM   #3
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I've been really busy but I am workin on a design and materials list. I hope to start melting wire soon.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:52 AM   #4
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I've been thinking of something for my KLR Jr.. Like a go-kart frame with cargo box and a padded top for the occasional monkey. Biggest challenge I think is fitting the subframe and mounts in a way that still leaves room for my foot and kickstarter follow-through...

This is a Doug Bingham prototype for the Marines. It actually folds up for transport.




I was thinking something like this for suspension:
http://www.southwestwheel.com/store/...rcle-hubs.aspx

No brake, although I think a disc could be added. I would rather beef up my bike front brake with EBC pads, two pot caliper, thicker disk, and stainless line.
The rig would only be for around town and snow day grocery runs. Mainly for the fun of building it.
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:06 PM   #5
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:39 PM   #6
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:33 PM   #7
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:45 AM   #8
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Hey Alex! Hope you and all the family's been well! Staying out of the way of large vehicles?
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Ural has been DOA since March, engine grenaded itself and then picked it up on July 12, grenaded itself as I pulled ou tof the shop's lot on the side of 295. Engine is out in Redmond for a full tear down, TI and rebuild.
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:17 AM   #10
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Ural has been DOA since March, engine grenaded itself and then picked it up on July 12, grenaded itself as I pulled ou tof the shop's lot on the side of 295. Engine is out in Redmond for a full tear down, TI and rebuild.
Jeez. My IMZ doesn't seem to want to exercise itself much either. Much rather stay in the shed and get fussed over.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:53 PM   #11
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Yeah I plan to start the sub frame tomorrow. That will be a pain but once it is done the rest should progress quickly. My bike has electric start that I use about 99% of the time but I would like to be able to use the kicker in an emergency. My biggest problem I think will be the angled adjustable braces that go from the car UP to the bike frame. I saw that little KLR it looks like a functional piece of fun.


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I've been thinking of something for my KLR Jr.. Like a go-kart frame with cargo box and a padded top for the occasional monkey. Biggest challenge I think is fitting the subframe and mounts in a way that still leaves room for my foot and kickstarter follow-through...

This is a Doug Bingham prototype for the Marines. It actually folds up for transport.




I was thinking something like this for suspension:
http://www.southwestwheel.com/store/...rcle-hubs.aspx

No brake, although I think a disc could be added. I would rather beef up my bike front brake with EBC pads, two pot caliper, thicker disk, and stainless line.
The rig would only be for around town and snow day grocery runs. Mainly for the fun of building it.

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Old 10-07-2012, 05:38 PM   #12
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I enjoyed the XT build, this should be good too.
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:50 PM   #13
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it has officially begun!!

Well, I finally got a chance to start working on the sub-frame for the car mounts. I am happy with how it came out. It should be plenty strong. I tied into both foot-peg mounts and the skid-plate mounting bolts. The frame is all one piece. It is mostly 1/4", with the exception of the front mount, that is 3/8" I will be attaching the the hinge points for the car on the flat plate. My plan is to make a big set of hinges out of heavy wall pipe. There will be 2 pieces on the bike and 3 on the car. They will fit together and then a big pin will go through the whole thing. I have a drawing I will post. It took me awhile to get this part figured out but things should roll right along now.

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Old 10-08-2012, 02:47 PM   #14
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Looking forward to the build.
Just one point , when you post a pic -hit enter -so the the pics stack instead of string out in a line , which means to veiw you have to scroll sideways. thanks.
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:28 PM   #15
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I've not done this myself, so first congrats on getting this far! I'm a little worried about your front pickup points, though. Those bolts are going to have to work in shear and I'm afraid they just won't be up to it. Is there a good way to get a larger diameter bolt in there, even if you have to plate it from above?
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