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Old 04-16-2014, 09:58 PM   #1966
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Very close to pulling the pin on a new V2. But, once again, the hardest pill to swallow would be trading in a 2 yr old bike and losing my shirt. I have a 2012 Stelvio NTX with a Mistral can, PC5 and AT, and a bunch of other stuff. The dealer wants my bike and a cheque for $4500. The bullet is not yet bit.
Good grief! I am a Suzuki fan and all, but the Stelvio would seem to be a far cooler bike than a Vstrom. I'm sure a more expensive to purchase bike too. Have you had problems with it or something? Why don't you like it?
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Old 04-17-2014, 01:32 AM   #1967
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[QUOTE=Eric Plante;23903741]Well, I kind of love my Guzzi too. But it is rather the same love I had for my ex-wife (which was ironically also Italian by the way...) I would say a love/hate affair. LOVE that charismatic engine but hate the fact that there is always a lose screw/clamp/hose somewhere.

................Screw loose Italian..................go figure !!!
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Old 04-17-2014, 02:17 AM   #1968
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Wee: As he had my info I asked for the keys for the Wee for a comparison. I was grinning like a loon the whole ride, if the soul of a puppy could inhabit a motorcycle this is the host. Everything was better except the brakes and quantity of power, I give the Wee the edge in quality of power if that makes sense. Zero buffeting, awesome seat, supremely "neutral" handling and stupid cheap on all fronts.
Put Galfer black pads in it, whole different level of braking. (FYI).

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Old 04-17-2014, 03:07 AM   #1969
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I know the 650 is built to a price point and all ...but the use of truly ancient B-Stone tyres, as well as, if possible, even older ("wooden") front brake calipers, are two things, that they could fix very easily. On the new 1k they are fixed.
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Old 04-17-2014, 07:08 AM   #1970
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Myh impressions

Not that I'm some sort of expert, but been riding for a while. AND I had the pleasure of spending the day with the new DL1000. I had a layover in Edinburgh Scotland. they were having a Suzuki factory test ride day. But it was a blustery slightly rainy day, so I didn't take it that day. but Monday dawned bright. So back to Saltire Motorcycle, and pick up the bike for the day.


This was the ride I used for the day.



The bike only had about 400 miles on it when I picked it up, and riding on the left, as well as numerous roundabouts etc had me being very couscous. But off I went. Saltire has a rental fleet, and they are very nice to deal with, besides hanging out in a bike shop is better than sitting in some hotel. They suggested heading for the Border lands. So I did. Excellent choice.




So to my impressions. I currently ride a K8DL650. I have ridden the older 1000 as well. I fully expected a new "plastic" on an old bike. I was very surprised. The bike felt light and nimble compared to my Wee. Almost too light. I thought, "Will this work on a long road trip with gear?" I could almost be twitchy on bumpy turn, especially with a load on it. Certainly no living room couch for the long haul. This surprised me. Now I live in Colorado, so much of my riding is above "mile high" so altitude plays an important part in power production. But this bike is lightening fast.
Very quick in deed. It could use a wider spaced gearbox, typical of all the Suzukis I have owned. It certainly has plenty of power and torque to use wider gears. And typical of Suzuki's, a lower first and higher 6th might be nice. However, a lower first would be nice, especially in traffic, or off road. But the higher 6th on this one isn't needed like it is on the 650.
When I put the bike through some twistys, even with some bumps, it was well planted. Passing Lories (18 Wheelers)
was no issue, like it was on the Wee before the fork brace. The bike just stays where you want it. We had a few gusty winds, and again, the bike was well planted. The brake are very smooth, and worked well with plenty of stopping power. The new seat is great. Fit my fat ass very well and after the day of riding, I felt I could easily do another. As for ergos, everything is personal. Most of it was as expected. the mirrors wanted to look at my shoulders, easily fixed with mirror extendors. For some reason, I had trouble getting to the turn signal switch. I'm not sure why. It's where it should be and all that, but seemed like it was never there when I reached for it. I always had to look for it.

As I worked my way toward Peebles, I passed this sign.



So I had to check it out. I never found the place, but the road quickly turned to gravel and dirt. Wet in places etc. They had been doing some logging in the area, and I explored up over the hills and through the woods on this gravel dirt,pot holed and sometimes wet roads.





This bike rocks. It is so much better on rough surfaces than my Wee. Seemed like a totally different bike. I even felt enough confidence to play a little. With that much power, you be on top of it to play. It's not like my DRZ400 in the dirt, but dramatically more capable than my Wee. It feels almost flickable. Very well managed when slightly crossed up. As with big bikes, if you close the throttle quickly on a loose surface, you might slide the rear tire. well Suzuki cured it with a clutch that slightly slips under that condition. Seemed like it worked well enough. I never locked up the rear tire. I tried several times. I'mnot sure if it was the ABS, or this clutch. Speeking of clutches, it's still hydraulic. I found it to be a little jerky, but I think that was mostly me.


I felt the fuel mapping might need a little tweeking. It seemd to be jerky at low rpm, like riding in slow traffic. I would guess part of that was because the bike only had 400 miles on it. But occasionally I could get a small "pop" on deceleration. When I returned to the dealer, they said they noticed the same thing. The bikes they used at the mfg event in Spain didn't do that. So they were talking with Suzuki about it. the question was, is this a U.K. emissions thing that the bikes in Spain didn't suffer from? Maybe.
I thought the bike burned a lot of gas, but again I didn't have it long enough to really tell. The Suzuki factory Rep told me an optional bike will be coming soon. It will be more like Triumph did with the XC I think. So wire wheels, skid plate, maybe a little more suspension travel etc. Wait and see.


So my impression. Very nice bike. I think Suzuki came very close to hitting the bulls eye. Nothing is perfect, but they will sell a bunch of these. I would love to trade my Wee for one, but that will be a couple years way. I would love to ride the Tiger and the new Vee back to back to compare. I have spent a day on the STen and at first loved it, but after the full day, was much less impressed. Ground clearance will still be an issue with then new big Vee.
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Old 04-17-2014, 07:27 AM   #1971
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Good grief! I am a Suzuki fan and all, but the Stelvio would seem to be a far cooler bike than a Vstrom. I'm sure a more expensive to purchase bike too. Have you had problems with it or something? Why don't you like it?
Like Rosco says: love/hate. Most of the hate is directed at the at the company bean counters. If you have the time you can pick out all the grisly details in my ride report "A Toad on the Road". But, my bike had seemed to be the exception and was finally straightened out. Needless to say, I have had enough of "cool" and am looking for a little more reliability, a little less vibration and, well, basically, size. Retired now, maybe I just haven't had enough bikes yet.
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Old 04-17-2014, 02:30 PM   #1972
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well I saw the new DL1000 on the showroom floor, today. I was drawn to it like a moth to a flame. Curse you Suzuki! Why do you keep doing this to me?!

I threw a leg over the bike. It's a little tall for my short and fat ass, but doable. The next thing I noticed was the seat. Wide, flat, and firm, just the way I like it. I only sat on the bike for a minute or two, but I doubt I would have any reason to change the seat. In fact this may be the best OEM seat ever. Ergonomics are typical V-Strom (I've had two), which is pretty near to perfect in my book. Plenty of leg room, feet under me. An easy reach to the grips, no lean. The windshield is small, so I expect buffeting will continue to be an issue with this bike. The mirrors still need to be wider - but Suzuki offers extenders on their accessory list. I thought that was a bit ironic. The accessory list is pretty long.

I have read a couple of magazine reviews so far. Rider and Road Runner magazines. Neither one seemed to be over the moon about the new bike, but they didn't have much to put in the negative column either. I would say they gave it an A-. And that's a shame, because I suspect Suzuki has hit a long fly ball over the centerfield fence with the new DL1000. I guess if you just climbed off a KTM 1190 Adventure or a Multistrada, the Suzuki may seem like government cheese - but then it isn't priced like those bikes either.

I have bought 4 motorcycles in the last two years. When I bought the current one, I vowed to myself that I was done. Now I don't know. I wonder if I can afford a new Strom and a divorce attorney?
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Old 04-17-2014, 04:14 PM   #1973
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I was pleasantly surprised by the wind. not at all like the older ones. I have a Givi screen on mine with madstad. The OEM on the new bike is much better than my setup. And yes I really liked the seat as well.
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Old 04-18-2014, 02:22 AM   #1974
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Old 04-18-2014, 06:16 AM   #1975
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Old 04-18-2014, 07:54 AM   #1976
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The Suzuki factory Rep told me an optional bike will be coming soon. It will be more like Triumph did with the XC I think. So wire wheels, skid plate, maybe a little more suspension travel etc. Wait and see.


What an intriguing devolopment.

Wow, that would be great!

A 21" tyre would be great. But, the production cost would be too high, so I really doubt it.

I'd be happy with more travel and a good skid plate. The spooked wheels would be really good also.

I guess, it would be like the 1000 adventure, meaning it would also have the crash bars and slots to hold bags.

I guess the weight would be around 530 lbs. 235kgs

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BTW, excellent review.

I really enjoyed my 20 mic test ride.

Stankding up on the MC feels really great. I agree that the ergos are spot on. I'm just 5"10 (1.7 meters).

Did you get any heat from the seat in traffic?

Thanks for reading.
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Old 04-18-2014, 01:16 PM   #1977
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Khaki V2 next Thursday.
i heart that Khaki scheme. best of the bunch this year
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Old 04-18-2014, 02:59 PM   #1978
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Finally test rode a red one today during factory demo ride at a dealership. All I can say is: well done Suzuki.

Really didn't want to walk away from it, I was just getting warmed up.
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Old 04-18-2014, 07:34 PM   #1979
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Finally test rode a red one today during factory demo ride at a dealership. All I can say is: well done Suzuki.

Really didn't want to walk away from it, I was just getting warmed up.
i rode the same red 2014 dl1kv2 at the same suzuki dealer demo.

well done suzuki!

i really enjoyed my first vee-twin.

(i have been riding a kawasaki inline 4cyl.)

thank you Zuk for the dealer demo.



be well.

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Old 04-18-2014, 08:38 PM   #1980
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Question 21" tyre on 2014 V-Strom

2014 base price and weight comparison USA prices.

Vstrom 502lbs (228kg) $12,699

Tiger 800XC 474lbs. (215kg) $11,999

F800GS wet weight of 472lbs (214kg) Starting at $12,090


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Well, I thought I had a great idea, but maybe it is not.

After Suzuki adds at least $600 for a 21" tyre and more travel, it is looking like it is getting a little pricey.

Granted in about 2 years of ownership you would have made that money up just on cost of service.

This would be the only Asian MC with a large engine and a 21" tyre sold brand new.
Much larger than 650cc and mid 30s hp.

I wouldn't say its the dirt cheap version to the KTM 1190R, but the eco friendly one.

KTM 1190R wet weight of 518lbs (234kg) Starting at $16,799.

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I think a True Adventure version of the 2014 V-strom would be bad ass.

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Ok, time for bed.
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