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Old 04-20-2014, 02:05 AM   #1996
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How does it compare with your V1?
The power is pretty close, but the V2 power does come on much lower in the rpm range. The V2 feels slightly more nimble due the better suspension. The brakes are a HUGE improvement. I rode so wet gravel roads for 15 miles or so yesterday and I had the TC set on 1 and it worked great for my heavy handed riding style. I also do NOT see the ABS being an issue for me for gravel or light off road that I would use this bike for. I tried a few panic stops on the different surfaces I encounter and the bike stopped very well every time with a minimum amount of ABS intervention. I am extremely happy with this bike so far.
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Old 04-20-2014, 02:10 AM   #1997
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The base S10 is $2391 more
ES is $3491 more.


Ive never ridden the 2014 S10, but it looke like a lot of extras. Looks like the S10 could be the better value.
I think for me and my style of riding the S10 would feel like a tank in comparison, I think it's 125 pounds heavier. I traded my C14 on the V2 and it also weighs 625, that bike was just never as flickable as my 03 Vee.
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Old 04-20-2014, 02:17 AM   #1998
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all Vstroms, regardless of model (650/1000), or year, have done pretty well two up, loaded with tons of crap, needing perhaps only small suspension tweaking first. One of the higlights of the whole bike actually. I'll be surprised, if the new 1k is a one-up bike.
I'm 6'6" and 300# and I don't see an issue with riding two up on the V2 at all. I have a Givi E55 Maxia that I had on the C14 that will be getting mounted on the V2. That should make it pretty comfy back there. My old Vee has adjustable passenger pegs so I may get a set of those for the V2 as well.
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Old 04-20-2014, 03:19 AM   #1999
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Confirmed yesterday the 2014 DL1000 will be available for demo rides all day Friday (5/2) and Saturday (5/3) at Romney Cycles, Romney WV.

Of course you are welcome to make a weekend out of it at the Camp and Ride event.
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Old 04-20-2014, 04:06 AM   #2000
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The Suzuki factory Rep told me an optional bike will be coming soon. It will be more like Triumph did with the XC I think. So wire wheels, skid plate, maybe a little more suspension travel etc. Wait and see.
I will have to say I am very intrigued by the new V2. I put 3 seasons on my V and really enjoyed many aspects of that bike but I also did not like a few of the common shortcomings. I am now starting my second season on my S10 which is a great bike..but hey I am always looking. A 21" wheeled V2 could create a lot of interest..
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Old 04-20-2014, 07:12 AM   #2001
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What is 125lbs heavier than a V2? 😶

On paper, the Tenere is a bit beefier. But nowhere near that amount. And once rolling, it's famous for giving off a much lighter experience.

But I agree with the Tank analogy. It is sturdy as heck.

Regardless, it sounds like the V2 is a much refined bike in every way. I'm betting it can be farkled into a worthy Beast. 2-up & solo.
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Old 04-20-2014, 07:16 AM   #2002
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I think for me and my style of riding the S10 would feel like a tank in comparison, I think it's 125 pounds heavier. I traded my C14 on the V2 and it also weighs 625, that bike was just never as flickable as my 03 Vee.
S10 ES 81lbs (36.8 kg) more.

S10 72lbs (32.7kg) more.

The 2012 S10 handles good, but the V2 seemed much better.

Typical question about more off road vs more street. More continental vs RTW.
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I think an XC version would take a lot of business from Yamaha.
Like a lot of folk, i do not need too much profermance off road.
Meaning Ill never complain about having ABS off road, cause ill never push the MC that hard, yet I believe a 21" tyre provides more confidence and less drops and dumps, and i would not miss the handiling in the turns.
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Old 04-20-2014, 07:35 AM   #2003
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I don't think anybody said the new Vee wouldn't be good for 2 up, just comparing between the S10 the Tenere would probably be better. The Tenere just feels like it has more room, the Strom feels smaller and sportier and I like both for those exact reasons.

I also fully expect the Strom to handle better on the street, if not I'd be really dissapointed.

I wonder if the Strom took some design criteria from the new GS. Test rode a watercooler yesterday and had some of the same impressions, sitting lower, tighter, bike turns in quicker (still very neutral) and overall maybe a better street bike than my Tenere. Reminded me more of sitting on the 14 Vee than the Tenere.
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Old 04-20-2014, 09:15 AM   #2004
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I don't think anybody said the new Vee wouldn't be good for 2 up, just comparing between the S10 the Tenere would probably be better. The Tenere just feels like it has more room, the Strom feels smaller and sportier and I like both for those exact reasons.

I also fully expect the Strom to handle better on the street, if not I'd be really dissapointed.

I wonder if the Strom took some design criteria from the new GS. Test rode a watercooler yesterday and had some of the same impressions, sitting lower, tighter, bike turns in quicker (still very neutral) and overall maybe a better street bike than my Tenere. Reminded me more of sitting on the 14 Vee than the Tenere.
V2 89.96" (2285mm)

S10 88.8"

WHEEL Base

V2 61.22" (1555mm)

S10 60.6"

Wheel base is .62" less with the S10. This could help with sport touring.

Lengh is 1.16" less with the S10. Seems like the V2 should have more cargo room.

Earlier we had an Interesting comparison on 2 up ridding ergos for the passenger. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 04-20-2014, 09:23 AM   #2005
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The Yamaha would probably be the better choice for a long haul, two up, loaded with tons of crap bike. Sort of a two wheeled Land Rover.
LR is light and it breaks, that would be more like Geländewagen. Or better yet a tank, a real tank. Dunno why owners take umbrage at that, not necessarily a bad thing.
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Old 04-20-2014, 09:28 AM   #2006
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Is there an option to add a kick stand?
Suzuki's now charging $$$ to ad a kickstand to a new bike? Am guessing that won't go over too well...
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Wheel base is .62" less with the S10. This could help with sport touring.
Don't forget to take into account rake and trail. Personally I've found those numbers on paper tell me more about the way a bike handles (feels in the real world) than wheelbase. Of course it all ties in together to make a package that the engineers have far more of an understanding than I do

The new Strom has a significantly steeper rake than the Tenere, which is more in line with what I want a streetbike to handle like. This to me has always been a detriment in making the Tenere carve canyons, it will just with more effort. The trade off is why such a big bike can feel rock solid sliding through a corner on a fire road.

Just for giggles I looked up the same number comparing the new GS, while it does have a shorter wheelbase the rake is identical to the strom, with a shorter trail (closer to the V than S10 though), which explains what I felt on the road as well. And I like it on the road
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Old 04-20-2014, 10:48 AM   #2008
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Suzuki's now charging $$$ to ad a kickstand to a new bike? Am guessing that won't go over too well...
Not kick stand , but a center stand is optional. The OP mis spoke
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What is 125lbs heavier than a V2? 😶

On paper, the Tenere is a bit beefier. But nowhere near that amount. And once rolling, it's famous for giving off a much lighter experience.

But I agree with the Tank analogy. It is sturdy as heck.

Regardless, it sounds like the V2 is a much refined bike in every way. I'm betting it can be farkled into a worthy Beast. 2-up & solo.
My mistake, I thought the S10 was 625. It's "only" 585, so it's 85 pounds heavier than the V2. In the end pick what works for you riding style and you will more than likely be happy. I have never ridden an S10 but I don't think the parallel twin would do much for me. But the Vtwin I really like.
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Excellent observation!

Those rake-trail #'s ARE what we feeeeeel. Regardless of how we describe it or what we prefer.



Literally, both the V2 and GSW have more street bike geometry.

The Tenere has much more dirt bike geometry.



Again, it explains so many of the riders of these machines perceptions. And from that vantage point, things usually make more sense.
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