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Old 09-22-2013, 10:47 PM   #706
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I think 19/17 is okay with an option to for 21/18 but suzuki needs to address 2 real issues to have some real credibity on the these adventure bikes.

1) suspension travel - somewhere at least over 200mm - relatively easy

2) Ground clearance - change the routing of those pipes - add at least another 80mm

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these wont make it a true dual purpose and will still be ridden by people who does mostly pavement and gentle unpaved roads but at least it will go where most people are likely to take such a heavy pig too.

ATM it is the softest of all pretend adventure bikes.
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Old 09-22-2013, 11:59 PM   #707
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I do like the dash. Clear and concise. The red is growing on me..
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Old 09-23-2013, 05:34 AM   #708
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All it needs is cruise control and it would be a lo cost alterntive to the Triumph Explorer or the Yamaha Tenere?, all be it with less power and no shaft drive...

Then again with the money saved you could dress this girl up just the way you like it..

how do you say Akrapovic???

I'll be seeing it in the flesh in Orlando Fla at the MC expo.. Can't wait..

Maybe they will have test rides!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I noticed that on the dash panel it says to use 95 RON fuel aka hightest or super..........
The cams are not attached to the chain, just idler gears. That would sure make it easier to adj and replace the shims under bucket.. I like it!!
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Old 09-23-2013, 05:41 AM   #709
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MC News Australia has a good write up and a shit load of good pictures.. Real bikes being ridden. Looks good.
http://www.mcnews.com.au/2014_Bikes/...000/Intro1.htm
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Old 09-23-2013, 05:51 AM   #710
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I previously thought similar, about suspension and clearance [separately].
That was before I went to work on those on my K4 Weestrom.
I had custom forks made [which I still have, btw if anyone wants to try it themselves] that gave me +2" to work with up front, and dogbones to jack up the rear. I'm 6'2" - I stripped it naked up front and mounted a small GPS as speedo etc, mounted a DR headlamp assembly, turn signals etc. and road it for 3 months or so.

What I found was that a big bike just has too much engine etc between the seat and the oil pan unless its a subaru engine like BMW uses... In practicality, the inconvenience of a tall saddle height [I was using the stock DL650 which is pretty low] became more important than whether or not the bashplate got to do what I pay it to do. In rough terrain, stepping a boot down in a hole while trying to push/maneuver out of a jam, the 460lb bike was winning the battle... I began to rethink all that ground clearance [not to mention exacerbation of big bike's natural top-heaviness]. A well-designed skid plate does wonders -
my conclusion was that the ground clearance was overrated assuming the suspension did a good job [mine was beefy and I am not obese]

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I think 19/17 is okay with an option to for 21/18 but suzuki needs to address 2 real issues to have some real credibity on the these adventure bikes.

1) suspension travel - somewhere at least over 200mm - relatively easy

2) Ground clearance - change the routing of those pipes - add at least another 80mm

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these wont make it a true dual purpose and will still be ridden by people who does mostly pavement and gentle unpaved roads but at least it will go where most people are likely to take such a heavy pig too.

ATM it is the softest of all pretend adventure bikes.
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:19 AM   #711
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All it needs is cruise control and it would be a lo cost alterntive to the Triumph Explorer or the Yamaha Tenere?, all be it with less power and no shaft drive...
If they have done what they said and tuned the motor to work more broadly then that is a plus. Don't worry so much about the HP. It's plenty. It's more about HP in the your riding envelope. If you like spinning motors at red line all day then this will not be for you but if you ride like 90% of people over the age of 17 then it will be a more involving engine and more relaxed if that is your thing.

And while I like the shaft drive, a chain oiler on a good chain can get you some pretty good life even in dust and dirt.

And anyway, poor old Suzuki is stuck being a low cost alternative. I think it is now in their DNA.

But that usually means a great value bike.
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:26 AM   #712
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And while I like the shaft drive, a chain oiler on a good chain can get you some pretty good life even in dust and dirt.

Didn't have any luck with mine on the DL650 in Alaska.. Either too much or too little oil on the chain. The gizmo that drips the oil on the chain got tore UP in that harsh environment. Everytime I stopped it was out of shape oiling the ground..

what kind did you use???
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:36 AM   #713
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And while I like the shaft drive, a chain oiler on a good chain can get you some pretty good life even in dust and dirt.

Didn't have any luck with mine on the DL650 in Alaska.. Either too much or too little oil on the chain. The gizmo that drips the oil on the chain got tore UP in that harsh environment. Everytime I stopped it was out of shape oiling the ground..

what kind did you use???
CLS. Big oil reserve, (up to 500ml), temperate compensated, and adjustable on the dash in 10 steps from "off" to "Exxon Valdez". Never let me down.
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:02 AM   #714
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Oh wow....me likely!!!! On paper, Suzuki has hit almost all the bases!!!! Bravo.

Can't wait to hear the performance numbers and of course the MSRP.

Wire wheel option would be nice.
According to the web:

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99 HP at 8000 RPM
76 ft/lb at 4000 RPM

(At a peak of 99 HP presumably at the crank, it is at the bottom of the class.)
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Old 09-23-2013, 09:37 AM   #715
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MCN UK are saying 59mpg (IMP) and £10,000 GBP. That'll probably be for the base spec one..

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...-tech-details/

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Old 09-23-2013, 09:49 AM   #716
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According to the web:

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99 HP at 8000 RPM
76 ft/lb at 4000 RPM

(At a peak of 99 HP presumably at the crank, it is at the bottom of the class.)
Which class? 1200 yes, but not sure that is the target.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:12 AM   #717
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Wow, the suggested performance specs are exactly what I would have ordered from Suzuki. Broad usable power, less weight, greater range. It's a winner in my books!! I'd love to have one in my garage~

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According to the web:

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99 HP at 8000 RPM
76 ft/lb at 4000 RPM

(At a peak of 99 HP presumably at the crank, it is at the bottom of the class.)

It has no competition in it's class, but if you're comparing it to the million pound S-10, or Triumphs, I'll take the lighter example any day of the week.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:36 AM   #718
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Wow, the suggested performance specs are exactly what I would have ordered from Suzuki. Broad usable power, less weight, greater range. It's a winner in my books!! I'd love to have one in my garage~

It has no competition in it's class,.
That's the point..

It's the lightest of the big bikes and the best value.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:58 AM   #719
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76 ft/lb at 4000 RPM
well according to the net, max torque used to be @ 6400 rpm.. that´s promising.
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