ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Beasts > Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 09-23-2013, 08:10 PM   #736
Hytram
crash test dummy
 
Hytram's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Location: Melbourne
Oddometer: 699
Quote:
Originally Posted by zuma View Post
Not really comparing apples with apples comparing the new Vstrom with a 800 Tiger, depends on what you want.

The Vstrom makes 103nm @ 4000; the Tiger 79nm @ 7850.

I'll take the Vstrom thanks, there's nothing quite like a big torquey twin. Hell, even the new Caponard while producing the same torque as the Vstrom from a 1200 motor needs 6800 on the clock to give that figure. If the fuel use figure Suzuki is claiming is correct, it'll be a hell of a lot more frugal than the others in the so called class too.
agreed

Owned a DL1000K3 for 50K km and 800xc foe 15K km and they are different beasts

put the DL1000 engine in the Tigers Chassis then you would have a bike!

the 800XC's triple is all wrong in my book (I must be the only one that doesn't like it) and has to be hammered before it gets anywhere near exciting, but its chassis for dirt is great

both bikes are great light dirt tourers, the Tiger XC can then do the more knarly dirt where the DL1000 is the better all day on the black stuff



its basically horses for courses


dont buy the wrong bike then whinge that it cant do what it wasnt designed to do
__________________
Marty
'10 Multistrada 1200
Hytram is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2013, 08:11 PM   #737
Desert Dave
Enjoying the moment
 
Desert Dave's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Location: Tracy, CA
Oddometer: 2,753
Quote:
Originally Posted by browneye View Post

Otherwise, peak torque at a given rpm is an odd reason to choose one over the other IMO. To me it's about how the whole bike works.
I agree with you that it's about how a bike works as a whole for your needs, but when comparing power alone where torque peaks is a huge factor. Plenty of bikes make similar peak power, but how it gets there can define a riding experience......but I think you already knew that
__________________
See what I've been up to! Ongoing Ride Report



Desert Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2013, 08:12 PM   #738
Hytram
crash test dummy
 
Hytram's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Location: Melbourne
Oddometer: 699
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolzen View Post
Designer of this


Pillion comfort is much worse with the 800, (if you care of course) and the road performance is not that great anymore, e.g. at passing, climbing etc. And you won't take passenger for serious offroad (again if you care). Besides when heavy loaded it looks like a little donkey, often you don't see the bike at all behind otherwise quite moderate load.
have you ridden one?
__________________
Marty
'10 Multistrada 1200
Hytram is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2013, 08:28 PM   #739
snakebitten
Small Town Hick
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Location: Coastal Texas
Oddometer: 979
I really like the max torque being moved\tuned down to 4000 rpm. That's moving it down in the "grunt" direction.

But I admit that it isn't quite that simple to explain how the bike will feel. I think you have to ride it to experience how that change is going to actually render itself.

The Tenere has major grunt down at crawl speed. You can chug up a mountain loaded 2-up. No fanning the clutch. Just tractor it.
Yet it makes maximum torque at 6000, I believe.

Always loved Suzuki V-twins though.
__________________
**********************
XT1200Z BIGGEST Dirt Bike in the world
500 EXC Dirtiest Street Bike in the world
snakebitten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2013, 01:23 AM   #740
neilc
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Location: GEELONG
Oddometer: 103
I was told by my local Suzuki Dealer that it will be available November / December this year in Australia and the price is $13500.00 plus on roads making it under $14500.00 ride away
neilc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2013, 02:44 AM   #741
DR Steve
Gnarly Adventurer
 
DR Steve's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Oddometer: 327
Quote:
Originally Posted by neilc View Post
I was told by my local Suzuki Dealer that it will be available November / December this year in Australia and the price is $13500.00 plus on roads making it under $14500.00 ride away
Thanks for that info.

The timing and pricing sounds good to me.
On paper at least it will have more grunt than the Tiger 800 with hopefully better suspension at around the same price or cheaper. Should be a winner !
__________________
'13 DR650
DR Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2013, 06:45 AM   #742
mrbreeze
Beastly Adventurer
 
mrbreeze's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Tennessee
Oddometer: 8,796
so...... for those of you foaming at the mouth to land a 2014 V-Strom - would it affect your enthusiasm at all if Kawasaki was to suddenly decide to bring the Versys 1000 to the states? I know it's hard to compare, since none of us on this side of the pond has seen either one, but I asked myself the same question. I sure would like to have a choice between the two!
__________________
2013 Suzuki DL650 Adventure

Travels with Maw Maw
mrbreeze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2013, 06:51 AM   #743
Dubl-A
SuckerDucker
 
Dubl-A's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Location: 505
Oddometer: 1,808
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbreeze View Post
so...... for those of you foaming at the mouth to land a 2014 V-Strom - would it affect your enthusiasm at all if Kawasaki was to suddenly decide to bring the Versys 1000 to the states? I know it's hard to compare, since none of us on this side of the pond has seen either one, but I asked myself the same question. I sure would like to have a choice between the two!

KLR800 twin maybe
Dubl-A is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2013, 07:40 AM   #744
Voluhzia
iExplorer
 
Voluhzia's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Location: Cary, North Carolina
Oddometer: 1,607
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbreeze View Post
so...... for those of you foaming at the mouth to land a 2014 V-Strom - would it affect your enthusiasm at all if Kawasaki was to suddenly decide to bring the Versys 1000 to the states? I know it's hard to compare, since none of us on this side of the pond has seen either one, but I asked myself the same question. I sure would like to have a choice between the two!
It has 17" front wheel - no go for me. So did Triumph 1050 and Multistrada


Facebook
Nova Scotia on Explorer
__________________
2012 Triumph Tiger Explorer

http://novascotiaexplorer.blogspot.com/
Voluhzia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2013, 12:15 PM   #745
Pablodakar
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Location: La Coruna Spain
Oddometer: 117
More photos...








__________________
Suzuki DR350SEX
Suzuki KingQuad 450
Pablodakar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2013, 12:22 PM   #746
USMC_Engineer
Gnarly Adventurer
 
USMC_Engineer's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Location: SE / PA.
Oddometer: 176
Spoked wheels on the option list yet?
__________________
Heading out on a ride with no destination in mind.
USMC_Engineer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2013, 01:58 PM   #747
mrbreeze
Beastly Adventurer
 
mrbreeze's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Tennessee
Oddometer: 8,796
that muffler is HUGE!

__________________
2013 Suzuki DL650 Adventure

Travels with Maw Maw
mrbreeze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2013, 02:41 PM   #748
kyns
Beastly Adventurer
 
kyns's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Location: Finland West coast
Oddometer: 2,446
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbreeze View Post
that muffler is HUGE!

Yeah, as in all new bikes nowadays. The exhaust system on the new bike however is 4,7 kilos lighter than in the old one. Which is good.
kyns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2013, 03:08 PM   #749
Zapp22
ZAPP - Tejas
 
Zapp22's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Location: Tejas Hill Country
Oddometer: 13,762
Laugh

can't wait to see Daffvee in person...

I thought I had committed a great marital crime when I, unannounced, sold my weestrom in the spring. wife was more touchy than I thought.
NOW I see how utterly prescient I was!
I can make her happy, and me happy..
__________________
Zapp
"I will not let the White City fall... nor our people fail.” - Aragorn
K4 WEESTROM Stealthfighter Black -SOLD - Invisible to Radar, '02 DR650SE SOLD ,'Ole 97' DR650SE My Fave K5 WEESTROM ADVbomber
Zapp22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2013, 07:51 PM   #750
garandman
Wandering Minstrel
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Location: Dorchester, MA / Goshen, NH
Oddometer: 6,174
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zapp22 View Post
correct: You are a domestic terrorist assumed to be guilty therefore everything you have is fair game
however, the potus who summarily waives the arms-to-known-terrorist law [he swore to uphold] and ships weapons to Al Queda is a Nobel Peacenik.
any questions?//
You must be a fucking riot at cocktail parties....
__________________
2012 WR250R, 2009 TW200, 2008 Tiger 1050 ABS, 2008 CRF100F

“The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without.” ― Dwight D. Eisenhower
garandman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 04:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2015