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Old 10-27-2013, 07:09 PM   #1021
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Where did you get these prices?
Suzuki Canada revealed the prices a couple weeks ago at the CDN dealer meeting in Vancouver.
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Old 10-27-2013, 08:18 PM   #1022
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maybe your just still waiting for the official intro from Suzuki and that's messing you up. don't be such a buzz kill. this new version looks to be a great bike for the $.

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look, not Suzi-bashing: I owned 02 DR650, 04 DL650, 0-something[?] DRZ-400E, which I dualsported, and still [last one standing] beloved '97 DR650 that I took out for 'air' today....
But the blooming V was released in 2002 for crying-out-loud! Suzi fiddled with it a little but basically it was always to this moment a parts-bin bike that didn't work well [the numbers attest] and wasn't good at particularly anything - including collecting speeding tickets because they limited an otherwise good motor because the bike would self-destruct at the capable top speeds!! its inexcusable, really.
they lucked into something with the Wee.

thus, I'm skeptical, and they are very, very, very late to a tired party crowd in the niche it falls in. we'll see how it works.
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:38 PM   #1023
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My wife and I went to the IMS show in San Mateo on Saturday. My only reason for attending was to see the new Strom in the "flesh." I was impressed with the bike, and as others have said, it looks much betting in person than in pics. Sitting on it gave me the feeling of a smaller bike compared to my '02, even though the dimensions really aren't that disparate.

I moved up to my DL1000 last year after having a KLR as my entry-level ADV bike, and even after 16 months I'm still in love with the stupid thing. It handles well enough to satisfy the ex-roadracer in me, it's powerful enough to carry my fat ass and a full load all day in comfort, and it's as reliable as an anvil. My motorcycles for the last several years have been the aforementioned KLR and a 1976 BMW R90/6, so riding the V-Strom has been like something out of the future for me. It's quirks and mechanical issues are really minor, and time-tested fixes are out there for not much money. If the new version is as improved as it would appear by the spec sheets, then Suzuki has a winner on it's hands and Joe Motopublic has a nice, new alternative to the higher-priced machines in the niche.
I can actually see myself plunking down my hard earned $$ for one of these.
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:04 AM   #1024
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When my wee blows up (maybe never, 42K miles and counting) I am definitely getting one of these new bad dudes. Suzuki seems to always provide what the normal man who likes real moto experiences without the expense needs (DR/DL/GXR/SV etc). I like it, the competition cannot touch the reliability or instant gratification of Suzuki AFAIK. Great job on the new bike.

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Old 10-28-2013, 07:31 AM   #1025
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why does it cost anything for this?
at least, the innovative Vstrom crowd came up with a way to share tools and files for a flash-a-rama that only cost shipping of the components from inmate A to B....
It's not Yamaha, or Suzuki, or Honda, etc fault. The blame lies with the smog Nazis, but I won't turn this into a JM thread.

And for the record, one of the reasons a Yosh box and such work on the original Strom is because the FI system is rather primitive by modern standards. That' s one of the big reasons why it was discontinued in Europe.
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:08 AM   #1026
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good reason to only shop used Teneres that have already had that extra expense incurred. there are a few around.
too big for me.. I've been trendlining smaller for awhile.
sure wish yammy would do that FZ9 idea in a ADV bike...
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Old 10-28-2013, 11:12 AM   #1027
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I also sat on and scoped out the new bike at the IMS show. Honestly, with higher quality bars and a decent skidplate it looks just as good as a GS or 1190ADV for 90% of riding conditions at lower purchase price and lower cost of ownership. It felt narrower and generally less bulky than the older Strom (I have an '04 650). There were two there ... one was an "Adventure" version with racks, luggage, hand guards and skidplate (SWMotech??). My favorite feature other than the overall cleaner design and better spec (USD forks, electronic goodies, brakes etc) was the adjustable windshield. Brilliant one-handed adjustment to 3 positions.

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Old 10-28-2013, 11:49 AM   #1028
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There were two there ... one was an "Adventure" version with racks, luggage, hand guards and skidplate (SWMotech??)
Any pics?

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Old 10-28-2013, 12:42 PM   #1029
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I also sat on and scoped out the new bike at the IMS show. Honestly, with higher quality bars and a decent skidplate it looks just as good as a GS or 1190ADV for 90% of riding conditions at lower purchase price and lower cost of ownership. It felt narrower and generally less bulky than the older Strom (I have an '04 650). There were two there ... one was an "Adventure" version with racks, luggage, hand guards and skidplate (SWMotech??). My favorite feature other than the overall cleaner design and better spec (USD forks, electronic goodies, brakes etc) was the adjustable windshield. Brilliant one-handed adjustment to 3 positions.

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I'm glad the initial feedback sounds positive. I enjoyed my '06 Vee and always thought an updated version would be quite a nice bike. I hope Suzuki sells a bunch of them so the class grows in market share. I'm looking forward to seeing one when the Long Beach MC shows arrives in December.

One nice thing about the "primitive" older FI was that it didn't have any funky ride by wire stuff to muck up the throttle response, it was bulletproof, and easy to retune.
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Old 10-28-2013, 12:57 PM   #1030
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[QUOTE=dman;22654306 It felt narrower and generally less bulky than the older Strom (I have an '04 650). [/QUOTE]

do you recall if the reach from seated position to the bars was any shorter than your weestrom? as you say, the sheer girth of the old bike is big... I have 35.5" reach and I had my 04 fitted with tall ATV bars AND risers, laid back and adjusted compromise between standing and sitting... 'tis huge.
tried to like the redo '12/13 weestroms but that factor is so nutty that I just couldn't do it again[and other reasons... ]. don't need an enormous bloaty pig to do our kind of riding... Its one of the reasons I was aggravated with honda's CB500X - if they had had the brains to just make it with some clearance, travel, and 19/17 it would be sold out and backordered.... light, small but big enough for the occasional 2-up, enough power [barely, but its enough..]. to me it would have been the 'strom suzuki didn't think of, but the suspension ruins it. its a bad cheap roadbike now
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:07 PM   #1031
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I took pics of the Adventure version but it may be a while before i upload them. But a Google image search of 2014 VStrom adventure shows plenty of pictures - better than mine.

Reach to the bars ... seemed about the same as my Wee with stock bars and no risers. The bars seem to have a lot of rise, though, and the pitchman (a contractor who does presentations at shows for Suzuki and a car company, nice guy, owns a Harley but is getting interested in Adv-type bikes) said that the bars were positioned closer to the rider compared to the previois-gen Stroms. They're plain old steel 7/8" bars, and with that much rise, they look flimsy and out of place. Lower fat bars with high-quality risers would look a lot better.

I went to a local KTM dealer this afternoon and rode the new 1190's ... both standard and R versions. They were very nice. But for street or light dirt road use, not sure if they're that much better than the VStrom, and they'll cost a lot more to buy and probably keep costing more to run.

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Old 10-29-2013, 10:34 AM   #1032
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Any pics?

Thx...nlp
Here is a low res... click on link and you can find a higher res pic. the adventure model with cases wasn't there when I was at the show.. I do agree bike looks better in person then pics.

https://www.adoberevel.com/shares/9f...c5b42b7a780712

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Old 10-29-2013, 11:25 AM   #1033
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Old 10-29-2013, 05:54 PM   #1034
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But the blooming V was released in 2002 for crying-out-loud! Suzi fiddled with it a little but basically it was always to this moment a parts-bin bike that didn't work well [the numbers attest] and wasn't good at particularly anything
Well moving on from a 1999 VFR, I won't find much to complain about. Hell its a motorcycle, I don't want a car or Toyota like refinement. FWIW, I took a spin on a used DL1000 last week, I couldn't find anything to bitch about, unless I was the prior owner....dealer was only asking $4999.
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:37 PM   #1035
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Well moving on from a 1999 VFR, I won't find much to complain about. Hell its a motorcycle, I don't want a car or Toyota like refinement. FWIW, I took a spin on a used DL1000 last week, I couldn't find anything to bitch about, unless I was the prior owner....dealer was only asking $4999.
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