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Old 10-18-2012, 08:38 AM   #991
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Could someone please post the ASS times, I'm on a BB here and am keen to see where van niekerk came in and if Darryl Curtis is still AWOL
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Stage 4 results:
Po N° Pilote/Driver Nat FMN Marque/Make Cl Po Scratch Ecart/Gap Pena Tr Po Tr Po Tr Po

1 6 PRZYGONSKI Jakub POL - KTM 450 03h28'44 00h00'00 1 00h00'00
2 2 DESPRES Cyril FRA - KTM 450 03h31'11 00h02'27 2 00h00'00
3 11 MIRANDA-ZANOL Felipe BRA - HONDA 450 03h33'03 00h04'19 3 00h00'00 1er 1
4 9 PAIN Olivier FRA - YAMAHA 450 03h33'54 00h05'10 4 00h00'00
5 15 VERHOEVEN Frans NLD - YAMAHA 450 03h34'53 00h06'09 5 00h00'00 V 1
6 10 BOTTURI Alessandro FRA - KTM 450 03h37'46 00h09'02 6 00h00'00 1er 2
7 35 FISH Mathew AUS - HUSQVARNA 450 03h38'02 00h09'18 7 00h00'00 1er 3
8 17 SUNDERLAND Sam GBR - HONDA 450 03h39'43 00h10'59 8 00h00'00 1er 4
9 30 CASTEU David FRA - YAMAHA 450 03h42'17 00h13'33 9 00h00'00
10 8 BARREDA Joan ESP - HUSQVARNA 450 03h43'50 00h15'06 10 00h00'00
11 7 LOPEZ Chaleco CHL - KTM 450 03h51'41 00h22'57 11 00h00'00
12 16 CZACHOR Jacek POL - KTM 450 03h52'49 00h24'05 12 00h00'00
13 26 PEDRERO-GARCIA Juan ESP - KTM 450 03h53'36 00h24'52 13 00h00'00 1er 5
14 18 KNUIMAN Hendrikus NLD - KTM 450 04h00'58 00h32'14 14 00h00'00
15 21 DUCLOS Alain FRA - SHERCO 450 04h01'00 00h32'16 15 00h00'00 1er 6
16 12 FRETIGNE David FRA - YAMAHA 450 04h02'41 00h33'57 16 00h00'00
17 22 CAMPBELL Johnny USA - HONDA 450 04h06'38 00h37'54 17 00h00'00 1er 7
18 20 VAN-NIEKERK Riaan RSA - KTM 450 04h08'26 00h39'42 18 00h00'00 1er 8
19 25 PIZZOLITO Javier ARG - HONDA 450 04h10'27 00h41'43 19 00h00'00 1er 9
20 24 CURTIS Darryl RSA - KTM 450 04h12'11 00h43'27 20 00h00'00 1er 10
21 5 GONCALVES Paulo POR - HUSQVARNA 450 04h12'20 00h43'36 21 00h00'00
22 33 RIOS-BARRETO Felipe PER - KTM 450 04h17'01 00h48'17 22 00h00'00 1er 11
23 49 MARTENS Sjaak NLD - KTM 450 04h17'59 00h49'15 23 00h00'00 V 2 1er 12
24 45 VAN-GERVEN Jan NLD - KTM 450 04h21'19 00h52'35 24 00h00'00 1er 13
25 50 FOREMANE Timothy GBR - KTM 450 04h28'51 01h00'07 25 00h00'00 1er 14
26 34 SOUVIGNET Romain FRA - YAMAHA 450 04h30'17 01h01'33 26 00h00'00 1er 15
27 36 VAN-GESTEL Marinus NLD - HONDA 450 04h37'56 01h09'12 27 00h00'00
28 254 DASSE Philippe FRA - KTM ECM 04h40'52 01h12'08 1 00h00'00 1er 16
29 47 HEINRICH Eduardo PER - YAMAHA 450 04h42'36 01h13'52 28 00h00'00 1er 17
30 32 MOREAU Xavier FRA - KTM 450 04h57'10 01h28'26 29 00h00'00
31 29 WATT Stanley IRL - KTM 450 05h01'36 01h32'52 30 00h00'00
32 31 VAN-HEERTUM Melchior NLD - KTM 450 05h22'23 01h53'39 31 00h00'00 1er 18
33 273 ALARD Frederic FRA - HONDA ECQ 05h22'55 01h54'11 1 00h00'00 V 3
34 43 VAN-GEEL Marco NLD - KTM 450 05h22'57 01h54'13 32 00h00'00 1er 19
35 200 ALBIRA Vincent FRA - HONDA Q 05h29'55 02h01'11 1 00h00'00
36 19 DA-COSTA Bruno FRA - YAMAHA 450 05h30'01 02h01'17 33 00h00'00
37 27 MARICHEZ Alexis FRA - KTM 450 06h06'55 02h38'11 34 00h00'00




Overall after stage 4:

1 2 DESPRES Cyril FRA - KTM 450 13h11'54 00h00'00 1 00h00'00
2 8 BARREDA Joan ESP - HUSQVARNA 450 13h29'53 00h17'59 2 00h00'00
3 15 VERHOEVEN Frans NLD - YAMAHA 450 13h43'45 00h31'51 3 00h00'00 V 1
4 11 MIRANDA-ZANOL Felipe BRA - HONDA 450 13h45'15 00h33'21 4 00h00'00 1er 1
5 9 PAIN Olivier FRA - YAMAHA 450 13h45'17 00h33'23 5 00h00'00
6 7 LOPEZ Chaleco CHL - KTM 450 13h47'58 00h36'04 6 00h00'00
7 17 SUNDERLAND Sam GBR - HONDA 450 13h59'15 00h47'21 7 00h04'00 1er 2
8 5 GONCALVES Paulo POR - HUSQVARNA 450 13h59'37 00h47'43 8 00h00'00
9 6 PRZYGONSKI Jakub POL - KTM 450 14h01'33 00h49'39 9 00h00'00
10 35 FISH Mathew AUS - HUSQVARNA 450 14h05'33 00h53'39 10 00h00'00 1er 3
11 26 PEDRERO-GARCIA Juan ESP - KTM 450 14h06'42 00h54'48 11 00h00'00 1er 4
12 10 BOTTURI Alessandro FRA - KTM 450 14h23'07 01h11'13 12 00h30'00 1er 5
13 25 PIZZOLITO Javier ARG - HONDA 450 14h54'50 01h42'56 13 00h00'00 1er 6
14 20 VAN-NIEKERK Riaan RSA - KTM 450 15h04'29 01h52'35 14 00h00'00 1er 7
15 24 CURTIS Darryl RSA - KTM 450 15h07'54 01h56'00 15 00h00'00 1er 8
16 16 CZACHOR Jacek POL - KTM 450 15h11'46 01h59'52 16 00h00'00
17 12 FRETIGNE David FRA - YAMAHA 450 15h22'24 02h10'30 17 00h00'00
18 22 CAMPBELL Johnny USA - HONDA 450 16h37'08 03h25'14 18 01h30'00 1er 9
19 33 RIOS-BARRETO Felipe PER - KTM 450 16h56'49 03h44'55 19 00h00'00 1er 10
20 45 VAN-GERVEN Jan NLD - KTM 450 17h09'01 03h57'07 20 00h28'00 1er 11
21 49 MARTENS Sjaak NLD - KTM 450 17h22'52 04h10'58 21 00h00'00 V 2 1er 12
22 19 DA-COSTA Bruno FRA - YAMAHA 450 17h25'52 04h13'58 22 00h00'00
23 254 DASSE Philippe FRA - KTM ECM 17h47'14 04h35'20 1 00h00'00 1er 13
24 43 VAN-GEEL Marco NLD - KTM 450 18h28'52 05h16'58 23 00h00'00 1er 14
25 36 VAN-GESTEL Marinus NLD - HONDA 450 18h51'45 05h39'51 24 00h00'00
26 200 ALBIRA Vincent FRA - HONDA Q 18h57'00 05h45'06 1 00h05'00
27 47 HEINRICH Eduardo PER - YAMAHA 450 19h02'32 05h50'38 25 00h30'00 1er 15
28 31 VAN-HEERTUM Melchior NLD - KTM 450 19h55'02 06h43'08 26 00h02'00 1er 16
29 273 ALARD Frederic FRA - HONDA ECQ 20h14'54 07h03'00 1 00h00'00 V 3
30 27 MARICHEZ Alexis FRA - KTM 450 20h23'11 07h11'17 27 00h00'00
31 50 FOREMANE Timothy GBR - KTM 450 22h52'16 09h40'22 28 04h00'00 1er 17
32 29 WATT Stanley IRL - KTM 450 23h19'22 10h07'28 29 04h00'00
33 18 KNUIMAN Hendrikus NLD - KTM 450 23h19'41 10h07'47 30 05h00'00
34 32 MOREAU Xavier FRA - KTM 450 24h43'31 11h31'37 31 04h00'00
35 30 CASTEU David FRA - YAMAHA 450 31h36'46 18h24'52 32 15h00'00
36 21 DUCLOS Alain FRA - SHERCO 450 31h41'46 18h29'52 33 14h00'00 1er 18
37 34 SOUVIGNET Romain FRA - YAMAHA 450 33h12'48 20h00'54 34 15h00'00
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Old 10-18-2012, 08:47 AM   #992
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So is Rodriques out if he doesn't finish a stage or do they slap him with a big penalty?
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Old 10-18-2012, 08:55 AM   #993
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Fuel issues ?

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Very disappointing day for @rodrigueshelder with fuel issue that stopped him in SS4 but @felipezanol step in with top 3 finish
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:00 AM   #994
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Fuel issues ?

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Very disappointing day for @rodrigueshelder with fuel issue that stopped him in SS4 but @felipezanol step in with top 3 finish
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A few guesses:

- It was some rider quote a few posts back that said it was something like 42 degrees today? Vapour lock?
- Or maybe he banged up his skid plate on the left side (which hosts the fuel pump)... Perhaps the weird placement of the fuel pump down there as discussed in the Honda thread is to blame
- Injection problems from dirty fuel? Hmmm back to the PGM_FI drawing board

I haven't heard of anyone else having fuel quality issues today (yet)
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:04 AM   #995
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I don't think there's a chance HRC will be honest if a problem is some juicy mechanical oversight. "Fuel issue" is as vague as PR men can do.
If they can blame it on the rider then maybe will know.
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:09 AM   #996
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:11 AM   #997
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Number 48 and 51 still making steady albeit slow progress at the back of the pack. Don't know why but I always find it facinating to keep track of whoever is in last place each day...they get alot more for their money than the others who are just flying along, ignoring the scenery, etc
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:12 AM   #998
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I don't think there's a chance HRC will be honest if a problem is some juicy mechanical oversight. "Fuel issue" is as vague as PR men can do.
If they can blame it on the rider then maybe will know.
Honesty is a bit different than providing the competition with an insight into your weaknesses. This is the exact reason why every F1 mechanical failure is blamed on the gearbox unless smoke is billowing out of the exhaust.
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:21 AM   #999
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Does anyone know if Jacob is ridng his prefered 690 or a 450?
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:28 AM   #1000
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Number 48 and 51 still making steady albeit slow progress at the back of the pack. Don't know why but I always find it facinating to keep track of whoever is in last place each day...they get alot more for their money than the others who are just flying along, ignoring the scenery, etc




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Rally Morocco Update: Helder Rodrigues assumed to be out of the rally. Did not make it to CP 1 (reported fuel issue), no finish.
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Old 10-18-2012, 09:35 AM   #1001
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Helder Rodrigues declarations in portugese (my transl):

"This was a very important stage in terms of the overalll classification. Unfortunately a problem that we believe is fuel related made me stop and I had no chance of sorting it in the field. The next pilot to come by me was 14 minutes behind"

Helder also declared that he expects to race tomorrow assuming a hefty penalty.

"tomorrow we will restart the race betting on the continuation of our tests with the Honda, at a competitive rythm, aiming at next Dakar and fighting only for the stage victories that are left"


Paulo Gonçalves (Husqvarna)

"After my stage victory yesterday, today was a bad luck one. At km 17 of the SS I had a problem in a wheel that forced me to go back to the beginning to change it. When I got back into the special there were a lot of pilots ahead and a lot of dust that rendered very hard to regain positions"


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Old 10-18-2012, 09:50 AM   #1002
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Glad he'll be able to restart!

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Old 10-18-2012, 10:26 AM   #1003
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I don't think there's a chance HRC will be honest if a problem is some juicy mechanical oversight. "Fuel issue" is as vague as PR men can do.
If they can blame it on the rider then maybe will know.
Exactly my thoughts
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:40 AM   #1004
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Those Yammies are climbing. I guess their riders are eating army rations like Cyril..instead of what the bivvy serves..
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Even though (by and large) we like the Coma and Despres, the idea of seeing HRC (and others) competing seriously with KTM is obviously exciting to us.

But if you're HRC, even though you'd hope for a perfect run on perfect bikes, what has happened is exactly what you'd want: whatever can go wrong needs to go wrong NOW, so it can be changed for the Dakar.
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