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Old 10-12-2012, 05:01 AM   #46
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I may have my jurisdictions confused but my understanding is that you can retrieve the seized item( perhaps after the optioned trial date if you go that route). Phone the OPP station and make an inquiry. It's not illegal to own one it's illegal to use it, at least in ON.

A few years back we had a group of riders from the U.S. stay with us so I made a preemptory call to the local station and was told that if any of the U.S. riders had a warning device it had to be disabled ie. not connected to a power source that it best be stowed away.
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Old 10-14-2012, 01:35 PM   #47
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What do they do (in Ontario) if you install a garage door opener on the bike, and just let it cycle/emit as you drive down the road?
I Like that idea !!! if they figure out they are wasting time with a stupid law maybe they ........ never mind.
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Old 10-27-2012, 06:22 PM   #48
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Had lived in Ontario, OPP were nice to me, got a verbal warning for speeding. Now live in Calgary, the city police I do not have anything nice to say about. Got pulled over in a harass people on motorcycles checkpoint on 22X. My insurance papers had expired by 13 days, and I did not have the current ones. Police refused to allow me to call the insurance co to verify the policy was active, charged me with failure to produce.
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Old 10-28-2012, 05:44 AM   #49
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Had the same thing happen years back in Madoc with the OPP. He asked for the detector, I said "a moment please" unplugged it, then smashed it under my heel, handed him the pieces and he handed me the ticket. Wouldn't discuss options.

Bottom line though- Detectors are illegal and the law allows the OPP to sieze them.
I wouldn't waste my time in court.
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Old 10-28-2012, 09:41 AM   #50
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OP - You missed an option...

4) Move back to BC





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I have 3 options..

1) pay and say nothing. I can put my visa # on the ticket and mail it in.

2) Plead guilty but face a justice team. No charge..

3) Plead not guilty and face judge.
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Old 10-28-2012, 09:57 AM   #51
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4) Move back to BC

Even with the detector i got 4 speeding tickets while in BC. One of them was with a group of 6 all doing 140 in an 80. Pulled us all over, I got the only ticket in the group. 3 of us had detectors.
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Old 10-28-2012, 06:22 PM   #52
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Make an appointment to see the Justice of the Peace or Crown Attorney. My 19 year old Son did that after being nailed with a Careless Driving Charge after going to a reporting station to report a accident with no damage done to either vehicle but the passenger of the other car wanted a $1000.00 for injury but to not report it. Needless to say he was fuming and felt let down by the system. I went with him and he saw the Crown by himself and worked out a deal with Him. They then went to the courts and the Justice of the Peace threw it out and the JP had the Court put in its records that the Country needs more upstanding young people like him and also asked My name and congratulated Me on my Sons attitude and respect for the law. I'm great full for that action because it instilled some fairness of the system back with my Son. and it cost him nothing.
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Old 10-28-2012, 06:56 PM   #53
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Even with the detector i got 4 speeding tickets while in BC. One of them was with a group of 6 all doing 140 in an 80. Pulled us all over, I got the only ticket in the group. 3 of us had detectors.
It sounds like the detectors work very well!
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:55 AM   #54
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Even with the detector i got 4 speeding tickets while in BC. One of them was with a group of 6 all doing 140 in an 80. Pulled us all over, I got the only ticket in the group. 3 of us had detectors.
I can't even hear mine at them speeds, but it is old. From them old days when I did slam the brakes more than once so the guy behind me got the ticket but that was always cars. With bikes I sure warned the others that I was so equipped and to watch for my brake light at all times. No need to get rear ended by a buddy.

Cop even smoked his tires once to get the following car and probably flatspotted them from the amount of smoke. No ticket needed after a well over 10,000 Kms "no ticket" ride and I was almost home in Victoria.

These days I rely much more on road sense....and my nose to sniff them out. Touch wood maybe but no ticket in BC in 20 years and I sure met lots of them cops the last few years.And in other provinces also. Just so happened that for some reason I may have instinctively slowed down.

Sure had to talk to a few of them, other province and the USAs but the outcome was always.....reasonable. But I did get a somewhat dirty look from one in WA as I had forgotten to switch it off entering the state, illegal in WA them things.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:32 PM   #55
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Geeez, it's not like the old days...

Thanks for the warning officer


You've had some bad luck,
I'd consider riding at the back of the pack in future, or ride where I live at the moment - no rules - no nada

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Even with the detector i got 4 speeding tickets while in BC. One of them was with a group of 6 all doing 140 in an 80. Pulled us all over, I got the only ticket in the group. 3 of us had detectors.
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:56 PM   #56
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It was pretty frustrating.. First time in my life I watched someone to do something of mine where I had no recourse.
Get used to it. If you're going to ride in Ontario you're going to get ass raped by the OPP on a regular basis, and you're right in the middle of their popular Red Zone. Wait until you start riding again in the Spring, when you'll be stopped three times in a week for a "document/equipment check".

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The O.Reg you are quoting pertains to cars, not bikes. The highway traffic act defines the seat on a motorcycle as a "saddle". This reg has nothing to do with bikes.
I wouldn't be surprised if you are a LEO, most are pretty clueless about the laws they used to fill their quota's.

Here's the actual HTA Section 172, which everyone that rides in Ontario will become familiar with on a personal level eventually. Has to be about the worst written, and becoming the most abused, section of the HTA.

http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/reg...s_070455_e.htm

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6. Driving a motor vehicle while the driver is not sitting in the driver’s seat.
Bikes are indeed motor vehicle's, and more riders standing on their pegs have been busted than actual street racer's under this bullshit law. Sure some MADD Libtard supporter wanted it in there to combat the plague of "ghostriding", but intent has never stopped some fuckstick from filling his quota.

My personal fav section of 172: Police services are specifically excluded from later civil action trying to recoup costs from bogus charges.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:47 PM   #57
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Although I feel your pain, ignorance is no defence of the law...

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Old 11-14-2012, 01:34 PM   #58
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Good thing you didn't move to Quebec (where I grew up). Drivers would often keep a $5 bill (I'm dating myself) with their drivers license and it would magically disappear once the cop 'examined' the license.
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:15 PM   #59
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The OPP always have treated me fairly when coming through Ontario (Highway 17 to Sault Ste.Marie)..even on the gong show stretch of the Trans Canada around Kenora. I always take off my helmet and speak politely etc..they is the law so why fight it? So I must be missing the ones who haggle bikers?

Maybe offer the meaner ones some BC Bud???
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:06 AM   #60
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I have been surprised...

...over the years, that when I have been stopped for any reason,usually going a bit faster than I should (no matter which Province or State it has been in), at how many of the cops are riders.

Im all cases, it's been a polite, slow down a bit, don't want to be picking you up off the pavement...

Most of them seem to be more interested in the bike, and how i like it.

Honestly, no really bad experience with them.
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