What is the point of BMW's K1300S?

Guy Jinbaiquerre · 10-09-2012, 06:34 PM

Why does BMW continue to sell the K1300S now that it has the S1000RR?

I'm not hating on the K bike; I just want to understand what its role in the company's product lineup is. BMW ditched the K1300GT for the K1600GT, so why does it hang onto the K1300S now that it has the world-beating S1000RR out there?

kadesean · 10-09-2012, 06:38 PM

Hayabusa vs. GSXR-1000

CBR-XX vs. CBR1000

Probably other examples. The K1300S is kind of a super-powered sport tourer vs. a race-type SS1000

Ohio_Danimal · 10-09-2012, 06:38 PM

The K1300S is to the S1000RR as the Kawasaki ZX14 is to the ZX10. Different focus.

JoeDuck · 10-09-2012, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guy Jinbaiquerre

Why does BMW continue to sell the K1300S now that it has the S1000RR?

I'm not hating on the K bike; I just want to understand what its role in the company's product lineup is. BMW ditched the K1300GT for the K1600GT, so why does it hang onto the K1300S now that it has the world-beating S1000RR out there?

Ever ridden the two? I'm going to take a SWAG and guess that while the S1kRR is say a surgeons scalpel the K1300s is more a very sharp chefs knife. It can do some things well, but isn't quite as single purpose a utensil as the S1k. (thats my opinion after riding a track purpose bike on the street and Im sticking to it

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PhilB · 10-10-2012, 08:24 AM

The K1600GT replaced the K1300GT, as being the same idea, just more of it.

As other said, the K1300S is more of a sport-tourer/hyperbike, not a sportbike/racerep.

Hopefully, BMW will upgrade there as well, and give us a K1600S to seriously challenge the Hayabusa and ZX-14, and a K1600R just to be awesome (a bike that, if they made it, I would probably buy).

PhilB

Josephvman · 10-10-2012, 08:28 AM

If they were cars, the K1300S would be a BMW M5, the S1000RR would be an 1M or M3.

Royal Tiger · 10-10-2012, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilB

The K1600GT replaced the K1300GT, as being the same idea, just more of it.

As other said, the K1300S is more of a sport-tourer/hyperbike, not a sportbike/racerep.

Hopefully, BMW will upgrade there as well, and give us a K1600S to seriously challenge the Hayabusa and ZX-14, and a K1600R just to be awesome (a bike that, if they made it, I would probably buy).

PhilB

This exactly.

lake_harley · 10-10-2012, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kadesean

Hayabusa vs. GSXR-1000

CBR-XX vs. CBR1000

Probably other examples. The K1300S is kind of a super-powered sport tourer vs. a race-type SS1000

This too ^ ...... Motorcyclist magazine recently did a comparison using the BMW, Hayabusa and Kaw 1400 (ZX14?). I tried, unsuccessfully, to find/post a link to the article but didn't find it. That would seem it's place, as expressed by others.

Lynn

Xdriver · 10-10-2012, 10:14 AM

I was at the dealer a couple weeks back and in talking, he told me this was the last year for the 1300S. A 1600S was coming down the pipe next. Not sure when. Obviously not in '13.

stretchmoney · 10-10-2012, 01:55 PM

They had no Race bike.
The s1000rr is the first bike they could race in modern "superbike" type stuff,
WSBK, WSTK1000, AMA, BSB, etc.
plus all the k=sport touring bike stuff.
The k13 is damn fast by all accounts, but 300cc's too large counts it out as a 4 cylinder, and it is no race bike. Funny front end, too heavy, shaft drive-they shaft drive right-so no final gearing changes-easy ones any how.
the s1000rr is bmw playing on the same field as everyone else, for the first time in a long time.

fast4d · 10-10-2012, 02:27 PM

k1300 can probably take the weight of 2 people plus full luggage.

doubt the s1k can do that.

Harry Backer · 10-10-2012, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xdriver

I was at the dealer a couple weeks back and in talking, he told me this was the last year for the 1300S. A 1600S was coming down the pipe next. Not sure when. Obviously not in '13.

Had a dealer tell me they were not going to produce the R1200R any more, that was a few years ago. Ya never can tell, they sell alot of them and they have a good following.

kbasa · 10-10-2012, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fast4d

k1300 can probably take the weight of 2 people plus full luggage.

doubt the s1k can do that.

Factory bags, tank bag, and heated grips, dual power outlets, Navigator. Also, Akra pipe, HP adjustable footpegs, quickshift to make sure the sport touring has plenty of sport, too. And a shaft drive with a Hossack front end and electronic suspension control, ABS and TCS.

There's not much overlap between the K13 and the S1K, IMHO. Ridden them both.

Neub · 10-25-2012, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xdriver

I was at the dealer a couple weeks back and in talking, he told me this was the last year for the 1300S. A 1600S was coming down the pipe next. Not sure when. Obviously not in '13.

Had the local dealer tell me this time last year that 2012 was the last year for the K1300S. Personally if BMW moves to 1600S I will be looking at a different manufacturer for my next sport tourer when my current 1300s is due for a replacement....1300S is already heavy enough, a 1600 would be a pig

scrannel · 10-25-2012, 08:39 AM

I have a K1200R and was actually hoping BMW might go to a triple. K1600S (R)? Hope not.

10-09-2012, 06:34 PM	#1
Guy Jinbaiquerre ^OP Monorail Conductor Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Tokyo, Japan Oddometer: 1,203	What is the point of BMW's K1300S? Why does BMW continue to sell the K1300S now that it has the S1000RR? I'm not hating on the K bike; I just want to understand what its role in the company's product lineup is. BMW ditched the K1300GT for the K1600GT, so why does it hang onto the K1300S now that it has the world-beating S1000RR out there? __________________ IBA # 42657 96 Honda XR250 Baja ・ 09 BMW R1200GS Adventure ・ 09 KTM 990 SMT (sold) ・ 97 Honda X4 ・ 95 Kawasaki ZZR400 (sold)

10-09-2012, 06:38 PM	#2
kadesean eyesuck Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Muskegon, Michigan Oddometer: 900	Hayabusa vs. GSXR-1000 CBR-XX vs. CBR1000 Probably other examples. The K1300S is kind of a super-powered sport tourer vs. a race-type SS1000 __________________ steve-0 1974 BMW R90/6 1992 BMW R100GS

10-09-2012, 06:38 PM	#3
Ohio_Danimal Midlife Crisis Man Joined: Dec 2009 Location: Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio (The Crooked River) Oddometer: 556	The K1300S is to the S1000RR as the Kawasaki ZX14 is to the ZX10. Different focus. __________________ Wisdom is age well spent. Anger is age, hell bent.

10-10-2012, 08:24 AM	#5
PhilB Beastly Adventurer Joined: Sep 2012 Location: New Hampshire Oddometer: 1,225	The K1600GT replaced the K1300GT, as being the same idea, just more of it. As other said, the K1300S is more of a sport-tourer/hyperbike, not a sportbike/racerep. Hopefully, BMW will upgrade there as well, and give us a K1600S to seriously challenge the Hayabusa and ZX-14, and a K1600R just to be awesome (a bike that, if they made it, I would probably buy). PhilB __________________ 1993 Ducati M900 Monster "Patina" (206,000 miles, so far) -- 1995 Ducati M900 (wife's bike) -- 1972 Honda CB450 (daughter's bike) -- 1979 Vespa P200 (daughter's scoot) -- 1967 Alfa Romeo GT Jr. (1300cc) -- 1964 Vespa GS160 (160cc 2-stroke) -- 1962 Maicoletta scooter (275cc 2-stroke) -- 1960 Heinkel Tourist 103A1 scooter "Elroy" (175cc 4-stroke)

10-10-2012, 08:28 AM	#6
Josephvman I'm the Decider Joined: Nov 2002 Location: Houston, TX Oddometer: 3,310	If they were cars, the K1300S would be a BMW M5, the S1000RR would be an 1M or M3. __________________ '11 Ducati Multistrada 1200S Sport "Stormtrooper II" '09 BMW HP2 Sport '98 Ducati 900SS Final Edition "The old whore" '93 Ducati 900SS "Slightly older whore" "Gentlemen. You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"

10-10-2012, 10:14 AM	#9
Xdriver Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2010 Location: North Texas Oddometer: 124	I was at the dealer a couple weeks back and in talking, he told me this was the last year for the 1300S. A 1600S was coming down the pipe next. Not sure when. Obviously not in '13. __________________ Super Tenere

10-10-2012, 01:55 PM	#10
stretchmoney Adventurer Joined: Nov 2006 Oddometer: 75	They had no Race bike. The s1000rr is the first bike they could race in modern "superbike" type stuff, WSBK, WSTK1000, AMA, BSB, etc. plus all the k=sport touring bike stuff. The k13 is damn fast by all accounts, but 300cc's too large counts it out as a 4 cylinder, and it is no race bike. Funny front end, too heavy, shaft drive-they shaft drive right-so no final gearing changes-easy ones any how. the s1000rr is bmw playing on the same field as everyone else, for the first time in a long time.

10-10-2012, 02:27 PM	#11
fast4d Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Oddometer: 1,545	k1300 can probably take the weight of 2 people plus full luggage. doubt the s1k can do that. __________________ Alan 2011 KTM RC8R 2012 BMW S1000RR 2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100

10-25-2012, 08:39 AM	#15
scrannel Scrannel Joined: Oct 2006 Location: Malibu, CA Oddometer: 1,457	I have a K1200R and was actually hoping BMW might go to a triple. K1600S (R)? Hope not. __________________ If evolution is outlawed only outlaws will evolve.

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