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Old 07-06-2008, 09:36 PM   #1
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V-Strom clutch basket replace questions?

disclaimer: i've searched this forum and wrenching. no dice.

I have an '03 Strom with dreaded clutch chudder. at 22,000 miles it's enough that other strom riders have ridden up to me asking "WTF IS THAT NOISE?" well, the time has come to dive into the project. i have read Dan O'Brien's clutch write up located here: http://www.vstrom.info/FAQimages/clutch/index.html

and it's very nice. i ordered the parts from Oneida Suzuki. the only thing that seems to be changed is the clutch cover gasket part #s. he lists one in his write up, oneida lists two different clutch cover gaskets: one for '02-'03 and one for '04-'08. but when you drop down the dialogue box to click on your part, there is only one clutch cover gasket listed with a seperate # altogether, listed for '02-'08. i suppose there's a new one out there. anyway, two questions:

1. since the bike only has 22K miles on it, i haven't ordered any clutch plates for it. the chudder problem was generated by a bad clutch basket/spring design. that part has been updated. i'm hoping i don't have to order all new plates or i'm for 180 dollars plus shipping. any thoughts? i've never done a clutch replacement so any input would be helpful. do some plates wear sooner than others? should i be sure to replace some of these for reason i'm not aware? also, the plates are not listed as fibre or metal, only drive and driven: i assume the driven plates are the metal plates and the drive plates would be the fibre ones most people replace?

2. anything special i need to know about replacing a clutch in general? i remember something about soaking the new clutch plates in oil overnight. i don't have an impact so i'll need to make sure mine goes to 102 ft/lbs. i also need a 30mm socket and a clutch hub holding tool (not necessary if i have a socket, i know).

any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Old 07-07-2008, 11:24 AM   #2
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this isn't that difficult of a job. you might have to remove the
brake pedal to remove the clutch cover.
the toughest part is removeing the clutch basket nut,
and having a clutch basket tool to hold it.
i would replace the fibre plates if the budget allows
and the springs if they aren't to expensive.
you will need an oil filter for the oil change also.

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Old 07-07-2008, 12:29 PM   #3
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motion pro clutch hub holder is coming, along with a 30mm socket, a 1/2" drive torque wrench (i only have 3/8') and a set of snap ring pliers. i have an oil filter and two more are on the way along with an air filter and a complete set of brake pads.

my problem is that i don't know which are the fibre and which are the steel by part number. one plate is 11$ and the other is 5$, if that's a clue. they only mark them 'drive' and 'driven' on the microfiche and since i've never had this clutch apart i have no idea which is which. there are 18 plates total iirc.

the link to Dan O'Brien's clutch replacement is a step-by-step pictorial for replacing this clutch. seems straightforward enough.
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Old 07-08-2008, 06:53 AM   #4
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the bike bandit web site shows the fiber part numbers as:

487185-001 qty (8)
487186-001 qty (1)
1477867-001 qty (1) all are $14.20 each!

i guess the 1st and last fiber plate are slightly different than the rest.

i would look for an aftermarket fiber plate, ebc or barnett.

i didn't find a ebc p/n, but barnett has this:

301-45-10010 qty (8)
301-45-10008 qty (2)

where are you finding those $11 and $5 parts?
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Old 07-08-2008, 01:04 PM   #5
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Oneida Suzuki is where i get my parts in general. i get all my XR400 parts from bike bandit, though.

here's the list of all 18 plates (did i count that right?)




CLUTCH DL1000 2002-08
CLUTCH DL1000 2002-08


Selected options:
PART: #9 PLATE DRIVE 2 21442-24F00


$9.85 x = $9.85

Delete item Edit options



CLUTCH DL1000 2002-08
CLUTCH DL1000 2002-08


Selected options:
PART: #8 PLATE DRIVE 1 21441-24F20


$9.45 x = $75.60

Delete item Edit options



CLUTCH DL1000 2002-08
CLUTCH DL1000 2002-08


Selected options:
PART: #12 PLATE DRIVEN 21451-24F10


$4.59 x = $4.59

Delete item Edit options



CLUTCH DL1000 2002-08
CLUTCH DL1000 2002-08


Selected options:
PART: #11 PLATE DRIVEN 21451-24F00


$4.59 x = $36.72

Delete item Edit options


all plates in total add up to 180$. i would order just the fibre plates if i could find out which were which. i might still buy all 18 just to put my mind at rest. still, if you can discern (if ANYONE can discern) which are which, let me know, please!



i decided it might be nice to provide the link to the Oneida Suzuki V-strom clutch page. duh. sorry about that. http://www.oneidasuzuki.com/store/pa...0-2002-05.html
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Old 07-08-2008, 01:31 PM   #6
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The outer fiber plates that contact the aluminum basket are a different material then those that contact the steel plates. That's why they have a different part number.

At 22k, I really don't think the plates would be all that bad. Unless, of course, it was ridden hard. If it was mostly interstate stuff, the plates should be just fine. All you need to do is rough up the steel plates with a little course grit wet n' dry sandpaper, to take the glaze off, and then you should be good to go.
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Old 07-08-2008, 02:37 PM   #7
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now that's the sort of information for which i was searching. more than one person has said, "sounds like you glazed your clutch" which made interested in changing them all. if all i need to do i rough the plates with sand paper to 'de-glaze' them, i will.

it has not been ridden hard. a lot of long miles and a lot of stop-and-go miles, but i'm generally very easy on my clutches. my '98 XR400 with 8k came apart to change the cam chain and it looked damn good (an owner before me and 4K of MEAN-ASS offroad by myself. my '98 cage went 120k without needing a clutch.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:32 PM   #8
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There is now a lasting fix

Long lasting re-engineered clutch basket has been available for over three years.

http://www.v-strom.co.uk/phpBB3/view...hp?f=17&t=3244
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