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Old 01-15-2013, 06:40 AM   #2641
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Cue ominous music.

We all know Terry is going to man up... Hopefully!

Thinking about pulling the trigger on a X-challange or x-moto. My dreams of grandeur continue.
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:48 AM   #2642
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[QUOTE=Colebatch;20488596
I spoke to Terry in Irkutsk and he too was weary from the time and miles in the saddle. He said he needed a couple of days to think if he wanted to go on or if he too was going to say enough.

I had two days before I flew back to Irkutsk - and Terry was going to use that time to rest, recover, and consider his position.

It was all looking a bit uncertain..[/QUOTE]

Terry was indeed dead beat and in addition to having been on the road for 3 months had been wet and cold with the rest of us for the last days, so maybe it wasn't the best time to be taking this decision.

I think if Walter hadn't been coming back he'd have joined me and ridden over Russia but his loyalty to Walter and the wider objectives of the trip was as ever a big motivator.

What would he decide? Maybe the couple of days R & R would allow him to regain a better perspective

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Old 01-15-2013, 07:25 AM   #2643
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Bugger it, I'd ride Irkutsk-Krasnoyarsk-Novosibirsk-Omsk- Perm-Ekaterinburg, on to Moscow and then home. About 6500 miles. Decision made.
Rod, its been a tremendous pleasure to read your say here. Maybe it might be worth starting a separate RR to cover your way all back home ? I for one would be very much interested. I love riding solo - would be really nice to hear your extended comments on covering Russia solo... With all that humour dose of riding Scotsman :)
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:26 AM   #2644
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I don't want to break up the flow of this RR, but at some point I would love to know what changes you as a group and as individuals might make for river crossings, socks, boots, water resistant clothing, etc.

I'm thinking unlined synthetic boots, such as the US military jungle style boot, polypropylene and wool socks.

I saw the pictures of you removing boots and socks after the crossings, but, why not change into something more appropriate for wadding before the crossing and back into something dry afterward? I know foot and ankle protection is critical when traveling in remote places.

Nothing takes the fun out of riding like a wet / cold combination.

Reading this, I think there might be a market for some riding clothing that is a hybrid of expedition type paddling drysuits and moto gear.
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:35 AM   #2645
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The Tokio London RR is here in the forum?
I don't believe so. It has it's own site...

http://www.tokyotolondon.com/

But Walter has some great RR's here on ADV for sure! I posted links to most of them further back. I can post them again if needed.


Another top notch RR here!
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:52 AM   #2646
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still loving this RR, and I appreciate the history lesson regarding GK. Any day you learn something, is a good day.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:34 AM   #2647
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I don't want to break up the flow of this RR, but at some point I would love to know what changes you as a group and as individuals might make for river crossings, socks, boots, water resistant clothing, etc.

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Personally none. I've done quite a lot of this and have across the years distilled out what FOR ME is the right balance of protection, bulk to be carried and comfort. Not against looking at anything but apart from one clothing item (not telling) I'd just take exactly the same.
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Old 01-15-2013, 09:39 AM   #2648
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Personally none. I've done quite a lot of this and have across the years distilled out what FOR ME is the right balance of protection, bulk to be carried and comfort. Not against looking at anything but apart from one clothing item (not telling) I'd just take exactly the same.

Ditto. This was not a first trip like this.

Been at it 20 years over a lot of trips on all continents and so I know what I like in terms of bikes in terms of luggage in terms of gear and in terms of dealing with water crossings. In the beginning every new trip brings new ideas you want to try to make things better. After a lot of trips you know what works for you and for the style of riding you want to do.

By now there are very few changes I want to make from one trip to the next.

Rod and Terry also have a long history of adventure riding so again its unlikely this trip would have changed how they want to do it apart from very minor fine tuning of their setups.

I think as far as water crossings go - the points to take out of it are non waterproof boots amd non waterproof socks are the best options.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:21 AM   #2649
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A look at the live positions indicates he is into the top 50 now ...




Thats actually an appalling fact ... There have been no British top ten finishes in the roughly 150 Dakar stages held between 2001 and 2 days ago????

We should be ashamed ... seriously. I dont want to think about how many top ten stage placings Holland has had, and its a country with a quarter the population and about 20 yards of legal off road riding terrain. We have infinitely more off road terrain and 4 times the population and we are THAT BAD??? I am shocked.
don't forget the dutch also won the 1990 camel trophy, the siberia edition
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:27 AM   #2650
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Thanks guys and gal,,I found your adventure a great read,,and would sure like to travel the same track myself one day,,but perhaps not at your velocities!!!!!..
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:50 AM   #2651
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Wanted to ask you guys for a while .... do you use something like a image-tank for backing up all the photo's you take ? I can image you would like to have a backup in case you loose an SD-card or drown one.
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Old 01-15-2013, 10:52 AM   #2652
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I don't want to break up the flow of this RR, but at some point I would love to know what changes you as a group and as individuals might make for river crossings, socks, boots, water resistant clothing, etc.

I saw the pictures of you removing boots and socks after the crossings, but, why not change into something more appropriate for wadding before the crossing and back into something dry afterward? I know foot and ankle protection is critical when traveling in remote places.
Next time I would take the sealskins that I left at home this trip.
I wouldn't change the rest of my gear for a similar trip.

Changing foot ware for every crossing wouldn't get you very far on days with 30 of them.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:17 AM   #2653
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Thanks guys and gal,,I found your adventure a great read,,and would sure like to travel the same track myself one day,,but perhaps not at your velocities!!!!!..
My velocity in much of Kaz depended on how fast Mr B could tow me, so please don't think we ripped it up.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:17 PM   #2654
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Sad Adieu...

ROD, Condolences on the passing of your mother's husband. Do hope, if in fact you did set off on your own return trip, that you'll be able to continue a separate narrative on it.

Most importantly let me say how much I've enjoyed your narratives and take on things. You've been great on responding to readers and an enjoyable read. Would love to partner up some day for a ride should the occasion ever present itself (I'll even bring a tow rope).

PRU & BEEM(STER), Thanks so much for your narratives and wonderful photography they have played a great part in making this RR the enjoyment to read that it has been. Best of luck on your journey home (watch out for those bears behind the trees).Look forward to future posts here on ADVRider.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:20 PM   #2655
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Ditto. This was not a first trip like this.

Been at it 20 years over a lot of trips on all continents and so I know what I like in terms of bikes in terms of luggage in terms of gear and in terms of dealing with water crossings. In the beginning every new trip brings new ideas you want to try to make things better. After a lot of trips you know what works for you and for the style of riding you want to do.

By now there are very few changes I want to make from one trip to the next.

Rod and Terry also have a long history of adventure riding so again its unlikely this trip would have changed how they want to do it apart from very minor fine tuning of their setups.

I think as far as water crossings go - the points to take out of it are non waterproof boots amd non waterproof socks are the best options.
Feck it, I know you know what works and what doesn't but somebody somewhere must make something you can zip on and off in a couple of seconds that would keep you dry for the few short minutes you are in the water.....A large rubber johny type thing or summat?
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