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Old 01-16-2013, 04:14 AM   #2671
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Great report! Really great!

What I have been wondering, and this might be a very weird question, but a question nevertheless.
Toilet paper. Did you carry any, and if you did, how did you keep in dry in all the river crossings and rain? Or am I not thinking adventure enough, and did you all use some sort of leaves or whatever was around?
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:26 AM   #2672
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:45 AM   #2673
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:47 AM   #2674
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Great report! Really great!

What I have been wondering, and this might be a very weird question, but a question nevertheless.
Toilet paper. Did you carry any, and if you did, how did you keep in dry in all the river crossings and rain? Or am I not thinking adventure enough, and did you all use some sort of leaves or whatever was around?

They are way ahead....they use the '3 sea shells' method Come on film buffs....where was that from
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:50 AM   #2675
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Great report! Really great!

What I have been wondering, and this might be a very weird question, but a question nevertheless.
Toilet paper. Did you carry any, and if you did, how did you keep in dry in all the river crossings and rain? Or am I not thinking adventure enough, and did you all use some sort of leaves or whatever was around?
You dont keep it dry ... you keep it wet.

I recommend to all my riding buddies using wet wipes. (often marketed as baby wipes or feminine hygiene wipes or whatever ... including these after curry wipes ... http://www.gadgetgrotto.com/gifts-ga...d8UUALw#113014)

Almost every village stocks some form of them. You can wash your hands, your face , your arms, your legs, with them. When you are camping, its the next best thing to a shower...

And you can wipe your ass with them. Multi purpose tool.

No real adventurer should leave home without them.

Dry paper on expeditions is yesterdays solution. Wet wipes are the future ;)
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:50 AM   #2676
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Great report! Really great!

What I have been wondering, and this might be a very weird question, but a question nevertheless.
Toilet paper. Did you carry any, and if you did, how did you keep in dry in all the river crossings and rain? Or am I not thinking adventure enough, and did you all use some sort of leaves or whatever was around?
All our stuf kept dry in the panniers including the toilet paper.
Beamster and me had all our gear packed in Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil® Dry Sacks.
Inside my steel pony's I used 35 liter liners also from Sea to summit...great stuff.

I did take a pack of those baby whipes too. Or smoelen poetsers
Great to clean your hands after a tire change !
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:11 AM   #2677
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:34 AM   #2678
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And you can wipe your ass with them. Multi purpose tool.

No real adventurer should leave home without them.

Dry paper on expeditions is yesterdays solution. Wet wipes are the future ;)
They also cut down on the Baboon Ass!

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Old 01-16-2013, 05:34 AM   #2679
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All our stuf kept dry in the panniers including the toilet paper.
Beamster and me had all our gear packed in Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil® Dry Sacks.
Inside my steel pony's I used 35 liter liners also from Sea to summit...great stuff.
And here I was thinking that there was no such thing as a water proof pannier. Was it due to the extra bag you had inside your panniers that your stuff kept dry, or could you have gone without?
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:34 AM   #2680
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There, as we bought food, a big four wheel drive Nissan came up by our side. Inside was young guys with guns. Local mafia with bad intentions. From there everything went rat shit. We had to do a runner.
I hope you will elaborate on this...please!

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And here I was thinking that there was no such thing as a water proof pannier. Was it due to the extra bag you had inside your panniers that your stuff kept dry, or could you have gone without?
The liner bag, the Sea to Summit bags, are dry bags originally designed for river travel and now used for many different applications, You fill with gear, roll the top a couple time and clip shut. They make different sizes...


http://www.seatosummit.com/products/display/7


There are also many different dry bag manufacturers besides these.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:57 AM   #2681
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The liner bag, the Sea to Summit bags, are dry bags originally designed for river travel and now used for many different applications, You fill with gear, roll the top a couple time and clip shut. They make different sizes...
The S2S dry bags are available in a couple of different material weights/thicknesses. IMO, the lightweight versions are better suited for stuffing into motorcycle panniers. The large heavy-weight S2S bags are great for across-the-seat cargo.

FWIW...I strongly endorse Walter's recommendation for wet-wipes. I lways have a pack in my tank bag and a backup included with my packed clothing.

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Old 01-16-2013, 09:55 AM   #2682
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Great report! Really great!

What I have been wondering, and this might be a very weird question, but a question nevertheless.
Toilet paper. Did you carry any, and if you did, how did you keep in dry in all the river crossings and rain? Or am I not thinking adventure enough, and did you all use some sort of leaves or whatever was around?
On the trail it's usually easy to find a broken bottle.

We are after all Team Extreme. Walter searches all bags to ensure no comforts are brought along-he just see it as self-indulgence.
We also eat nothing but roadkill and drink our own piss.
Terry started before we left the UK-he likes it.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:00 AM   #2683
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:10 AM   #2684
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Liners

To answer Jaarno's other question.

I use "Dirtbagz" panniers so although they're abrasion resistant they're not waterproof and after a minute or two's submersion will start to let water through so you could easily end up with soaked clothes.. A real slap in the face at the end of a long wet cold day.

I just use a good quality plastic carrier bag inside the pannier.

This year's was a "Next" carrier. It's of course got handles ( that's why its a "carrier ) so when you want your gear out at the end of the day you just haul it out of the pannier and throw it in your tent. Bingo! your gear's still dry. Cheaper carriers just fall apart, Ortliebs get punctured too!
This one lasted all of the trip without splitting.

Diff'rent strokes.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:33 AM   #2685
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Day 67

Suffering from cheese-brain as I've kind of lost the order here guys and not sure which day Bas and Linda baled -this day or the next but they'll chime in to assist I'm sure.We packed quite a lot into the days so forgive me.

Terry and myself needed spares for the bikes to do servicing work and Terry was going to change his tyres. I'd also had no mirror since the day of The Deluge in The Woods, way back before I went up to Barnaul with a dead bike.
We'd pre-ordered some new tyres and they'd been shipped out to the Moto place in Irkutsk.

It's a strange phenomenon in Russia...all the disciplines tend to be located together, so all the moto shops tend to grouped around the same area or industrial estate/whatever. Maybe it has its roots in the old Soviet system and just hasn't evolved out of that form yet?

Anyway. We went to the moto repair shop, found Walter's bike- it looked like it had dropped out of an aicraft-and not much seemed to be happening to repair it. The shop round the corner had the tyres we'd pre-ordered. With my new plan I wanted to fit some 90/10s ( Trailwings, Tourances) as Ii'd be almost exclusively on the slab.

They hadn't a pair of anything suitable and after considerable poking about and pulling tyres off the racks Bas and myself looked harder at the rubber on my bike and surmised it'd probs make it to Moscow where I could take a view with the situation pertinent and better range of tyres available there.
Similarly the chain-I'd only adjusted it a couple of flats thus far so maye it'd get me to Moscow?
I bought a mirror, Terry and myself bought oil-we had filters-and then we went to drop Bas and Linda's bikes off at the shippers.

They were in the office quite a while ( Bas will I'm sure report) and we pillioned them back to Nina's.
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