ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Riding > Ride reports
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 02-01-2013, 09:31 AM   #3226
tee bee
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Location: in the fens uk, mostly
Oddometer: 196
Well done for spotting that Tony ! .

We were nearing the end of the BAM and really glad of a bit of hardpack.....

Little did we realise what we had just explored..
tee bee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2013, 10:54 AM   #3227
Flagman
Adventurer
 
Flagman's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Location: Kamouraska, Qc
Oddometer: 50
Fascinating ride report! Looking at it daily! As an add-on to the surreal Lykov family story, their location was here: 51°27'38"N 88°25'37"E
__________________
2006 HUSABERG FE450 2005 SUZUKI JR50
2003 SUZUKI DR650 2003 YAMAHA TTR125
1978 HONDA CT70
Flagman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2013, 11:05 AM   #3228
jordiakof
Adventurer
 
jordiakof's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Oddometer: 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamezz View Post
What brand of mousse did you use? I've been running mousses for five years now, and I've never heard of hollow mousses.



Mounting a mousse is far easier than most people think. It's just a matter of technique. Sure a tyre changer (not to be confused with a tyre machine) is easier, but it's quite doable without. Just watch the World Enduro boys change 2 tyres, oil and air filter in a 15 minute work period and still have time to polish their sponsors stickers. I find changing a mousse to be easier than a tube.

This video is a bit of a stretch, but it does show the general idea of changing a mousse.
Well, this guy can do it faster : Rofl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh-8ZmwKCqI
jordiakof is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2013, 11:05 AM   #3229
Gravel Seeker
Thomas
 
Gravel Seeker's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Location: Dreary old Norway, dreaming of adventures past
Oddometer: 3,966
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colebatch View Post
You know how dangerous that is, dont you.

You know I love going against the perceived wisdom. So quoting me is not recommended. Unless you want to get a reaction ...

Non traditional thinking is often unpopular. ... doesnt matter how much you prove it works.

Youre going to get us both in trouble young man !!!
For the doubters; there's a laptop inside that Ortlieb softbag.

This was in 2005 and the (low end El Cheapo Acer travel something) laptop was just a tad too long to fit so I had to carry it diagonally and stuffed clothes in the two triangled spaces that were left.

The softbag was ripped off the bike when I (was fucking around one morning doing powerslides next to the road and) lowsided at around 70km/h (45 mph). The laptop didn't miss a beat. Come to think of it this was about the time where I didn't open that bag for about a week to ten days and when I went to use the laptop it was all bent so only three corners would touch the table at once. Took about a month before it flexed back to being level. Still works today, if you don't count that all the keys are scratched into the screen....
The Touratech front side pannier also ripped off, but both were fixed in a few hours with a roll of dentalfloss and a needle

__________________
'01 F650 Dakar - modified as best I can

2005: Australia - 8 months/ 26.000 km (anti clockwise circle)
2009: Norway - 2 weeks/ 6000 km (Lindesnes to North cape)

Gravel Seekers.com

Hey !
It's the African ant eater ritual !
Gravel Seeker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2013, 11:37 AM   #3230
Gravel Seeker
Thomas
 
Gravel Seeker's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Location: Dreary old Norway, dreaming of adventures past
Oddometer: 3,966
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colebatch View Post
Show me the appletinis !
__________________
'01 F650 Dakar - modified as best I can

2005: Australia - 8 months/ 26.000 km (anti clockwise circle)
2009: Norway - 2 weeks/ 6000 km (Lindesnes to North cape)

Gravel Seekers.com

Hey !
It's the African ant eater ritual !
Gravel Seeker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2013, 12:17 PM   #3231
FlyingPickel
n00b
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Location: Minnesota
Oddometer: 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by DyrWolf View Post
Terry Did the bolt break or threads strip? And was it a stock bolt. I worry about the bolts on my XC because they don`t
thread in very far and my fairing brackets are between the top clamp and riser. Just a few mm but I have though of lengthening the bolts 5 to 10 mm. Yours or Walter`s thoughts appreciated.
FYI: The Rule for proper thread engagement into aluminum (top fork clamp) is 1.5 x Diameter. If your using M12 bolts (12 mm dia) you need a minimum of at least 18 mm of thread engagement to ensure the bolt will fail before the threads strip out of the aluminum. If you don't currently have enough thread engagement you should get some longer bolts.

In Terry's case it was the bolt that broke suggesting he had the correct amount of engagement (or used a thru bolt with a steel nut). Also, in the case of blind hole you also need to be careful to have enough extra hole depth so that the bolt does not bottom out before achieving the proper clamp load on the joint (generally indicated by achieving the proper amount of bolt torque during assembly). Again this did not appear to be an issue in Terry's case as it appeared he was able to remove the broken bit without a great deal of trouble.

At somebody already mentioned Stainless Steel bolts are not usually considered high strength. Bolts marked as 10.9 DIN are higher strength (approx equivalent to a Grade 5 in the USA), and probably a good option for clamping Aluminum parts together.

A couple of other things that can contribute to bolt failure are not having clean parallel surfaces at the clamp joint, and not having enough clamp load (a.k.a. bolt torque). Bolts are designed to act like springs and if the clamp load is to low the bolt goes through a high number of repeated stretching cycles during use. The result is early material fatigue of the bolt (like bending a paper clip back and forth until it breaks), and possible fretting and wear to the mating surfaces being clamped.


Great ride report Guy's.
FlyingPickel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2013, 12:56 PM   #3232
zapsx
n00b
 
zapsx's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Vác area, Hungary
Oddometer: 8
'Zilov Gap'

Just watch my Terra Circa DVD for like the 4th time, still love it. Different time different bikes, great to watch. Is the 'Zilov Gap' part of the route you guys did or is it known as something else now. Cheers.
__________________
Looking for rides in and around Hungary this summer...
zapsx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2013, 01:18 PM   #3233
WhorehayTheBarbarian
Gnarly Adventurer
 
WhorehayTheBarbarian's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: San Diego CA
Oddometer: 154
Quote:
Originally Posted by tee bee View Post
Looking back i think the problem was that i used bar risers, which put more strain on the bolts, they both broke even though i changed them for stronger stainless steel before i left.

I,m trying to find a solution to the problem at the moment, i have one or two ideas...

They actually broke again , later on.....
You could try and source some F9-11 hardware. I have seen these used on Suspension parts for Baja 1000 race trucks and I personally had a Shock pivot on a downhill bike that I would occasionally break... untill I installed the F9-11. Pretty tough stuff.
WhorehayTheBarbarian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2013, 02:10 PM   #3234
roscoau
Studly Adventurer
 
roscoau's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Location: Pambula, NSW
Oddometer: 526
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colebatch View Post
I spent more time up on the rail embankment than anyone else so missed a few of the funky bridges like this one:


Is that Terry loading his bike up for the crossing?

__________________
Aussie Ural Owners
rosco.id.au

Ural - speed limits aren't a restriction, they are an achievement!
roscoau is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2013, 02:22 PM   #3235
tee bee
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Location: in the fens uk, mostly
Oddometer: 196
Sorry to disappoint, but no... now that rod has cleared off home....
tee bee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2013, 02:31 PM   #3236
Blader54
Beastly Adventurer
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Oddometer: 1,062
Talking

Hey gang, just wanted to say that this report is worth the wait, and more! Thanks so much! Can't wait to see whether you cross tracks with that French piano tuner again! That sounds like part of a dirty joke...no, that was something about a one-armed paper hanger, I think. Ride on!
Blader54 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2013, 02:43 PM   #3237
Colebatch OP
"Moto Porn"ographer
 
Colebatch's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Location: Schmocation
Oddometer: 3,962
The Zilov Gap

Quote:
Originally Posted by zapsx View Post
Just watch my Terra Circa DVD for like the 4th time, still love it. Different time different bikes, great to watch. Is the 'Zilov Gap' part of the route you guys did or is it known as something else now. Cheers.
No.

The Zilov Gap (as named by Mondo Enduro and Terra Circa) was a gap in the Trans Siberian Highway (alongside the TransSiberian railway) prior to 2004. It is along the main cross country route, the Trans Siberian, and followed the Trans Sib Railway, 500 km to the south. We are by the rarely travelled BAM railway here. The Zilov Gap was between Aksenovo-Zilovskoye N53.0653, E117.5099 (local rail station is called Zilovo) and Magdagachi.

Most travellers along the Trans Siberian route in the old days took the gap from Chernyshevsky (a bit before Aksenovo Zilovskoye) to Magdagachi, but obviously, the Mondo Enduro (1995) guys boarded the train at Zilovo and gave the gap that name.

In 2001 when they made Terra Circa, the gap still existed.

In early 2004, a wide graded gravel road was completed linking up both ends of the Trans-Siberian highway - thus the gap was now bridged with a federal highway suitable for any vehicle including international / interstate 40 ton road trucks.

In mid 2004, Long Way Round passed through and stopped at the city of Chita (before both Chernyshevsk and Zilovo), claiming they didn't know if a road existed beyond there, despite everyone in Russia knowing it now existed and Putin being on TV months earlier proclaiming the main highway across the country open, and despite LWR having a research team of 4 full time people in London.

By 2010 the entire Trans Siberian highway was paved with wide, silky smooth asphalt. Again Putin returned armed with media posse and drove the highway in a Lada Kalina. (small 2wd car).

What was 10 years ago, the Zilov Gap, is now a smooth asphalt highway. The Zilov Gap died in 2004.

Note ... the only people who ever called it the Zilov Gap are western motorcyclists who have watch Mondo Enduro / Terra Circa. Thats a name given to the gap in the highway by Austin and Gerald Vince. The Zilov Gap is neither an official name nor a name any locals would recognise.

In any case, we were 500 km (300 miles) further north.
__________________
*** New Sibirsky Extreme Trail DVD Trailer HERE ***
Moroccan Extreme 2011 DVD available HERE
World Motorcycle Altitude Record video HERE
Sibirsky Extreme - The Home of Adventure Motorcycling in Siberia and Mongolia - On Facebook

Colebatch screwed with this post 02-01-2013 at 03:07 PM
Colebatch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2013, 03:29 PM   #3238
Colebatch OP
"Moto Porn"ographer
 
Colebatch's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Location: Schmocation
Oddometer: 3,962
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flagman View Post
Fascinating ride report! Looking at it daily! As an add-on to the surreal Lykov family story, their location was here: 51°27'38"N 88°25'37"E
Its interesting info ... there are indeed a couple of roofed building there at that spot in the middle of nowhere. No roads. trails or anything. Amazing.

But it means the description of isolation is inaccurate. The story talks of 150 miles / 250 km from the nearest town. Its actually about a fifth of that ... just 52 km (32 miles) from Balykcha. a town in the Altai near the southern end of Lake Teletskoye ... and just 57 km (35 miles) from where we were in the Altai when we took this picture:

__________________
*** New Sibirsky Extreme Trail DVD Trailer HERE ***
Moroccan Extreme 2011 DVD available HERE
World Motorcycle Altitude Record video HERE
Sibirsky Extreme - The Home of Adventure Motorcycling in Siberia and Mongolia - On Facebook

Colebatch screwed with this post 02-01-2013 at 03:37 PM
Colebatch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2013, 03:36 PM   #3239
mario33
Howling around...
 
mario33's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Oddometer: 145
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colebatch View Post
Its interesting ... there are indeed a couple of roofed building there at that spot in the middle of nowhere. No roads. trails or anything
When in Google maps, turn on 'pictures'. You'll see geotagged pictures of those 'new' huts, believed to be built in Lykovs' place. More pictures made by the same photographer here, including those of Agafia Lykova: https://ssl.panoramio.com/user/19384...BC%D0%BA%D0%B0 Pics were made in 2009.

mario33 screwed with this post 02-01-2013 at 03:43 PM
mario33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2013, 03:45 PM   #3240
Yamezz
Suffers from MBS
 
Yamezz's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: South Australia
Oddometer: 159
Mousse

Quote:
Originally Posted by jordiakof View Post
Well, this guy can do it faster : Rofl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh-8ZmwKCqI
Poor bugger. The video does show a couple of things though; that the rear mousse is not hollow, and that it can be cut right through, which some people say is easier to install. Actually, cutting the mousse is a way of changing the perceived pressure of it - cut out a small section to lower the perceived tyre pressure, or add in a bit of another mousse to bump it up. The latter is a common method to rejuvenate an ageing mousse, which shrinks over time, leading to a lower perceived pressure.
__________________
Grammar... The difference between knowing your shit, and knowing you're shit.
Yamezz is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 07:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014