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Old 02-03-2013, 02:52 PM   #3346
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In other words.. Please don't call a Basque a Spaniard.. It is like calling a Canadian an American.
No,it's like calling a Québécois a Canadian.
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:57 PM   #3347
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The perks of crossing rivers for weeks

When you do the BAM and ROB you inevitably have to cross a river or two.

Some you drive through with ease.

Some you drive through with difficulty.

Some you try to drive through.

Some will challenge your persistence.

Some you will conquer.

Some will conquer you.

But all will make your feet look like this

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Old 02-03-2013, 03:00 PM   #3348
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Eastern BAM

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Walter has anybody ever ridden the entire Bam as it sits now? If so when was the last time it was ridden?
In Tynda we met Max. He rode the whole eastern BAM two years ago with some girl I can't remember the name of. Western BAM quite a few has done.
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Old 02-03-2013, 03:04 PM   #3349
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No,it's like calling a Québécois a Canadian.
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Old 02-03-2013, 03:53 PM   #3350
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Coming ashore again from the Kuanda River Wet from the top of our heads to our soles For those who wonders, the water was cold and the current strong

Why not strip before going in the water, then you would at least have dry clothes to put on, while waiting for the truck...?

I would at least remove most clothes and shoes when going in the water to investigate, or to ride across.

Is there a reason you guys like to get your gear wet all the time ? Or are you guys just stupid ? It must have been getting cool there allready...









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Old 02-03-2013, 04:03 PM   #3351
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Perhaps, but a much better example than the other.
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:08 PM   #3352
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Why not strip before going in the water, then you would at least have dry clothes to put on, while waiting for the truck...?

I would at least remove most clothes and shoes when going in the water to investigate, or to ride across.

Is there a reason you guys like to get your gear wet all the time ? Or are you guys just stupid ? It must have been getting cool there allready...









With the amount of rivers we had to cross we would have to strip the whole day This takes forever...

If you go barefoot you might step on something you don't like. Then the trip might be over.

Eventually all your stuff dries.
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:25 PM   #3353
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With the amount of rivers we had to cross we would have to strip the whole day This takes forever...

If you go barefoot you might step on something you don't like. Then the trip might be over.

Eventually all your stuff dries.
Ok, makes sence.

I know i would get sick, if i had to ride wet like that for days.
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:47 PM   #3354
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Yes ... the greedy fu@ker on the bridge could have made an easy 5000 rubles in 2 minutes ... but he wanted to screw us for 25,000. It was enjoyable seeing him staring at us as we rode the truck over.
I myself would have been mighty tempted to give the guy the finger.

But then again, like you said, the next town is just a phone call away...............................
Might be a bad idea to upset the powers that be in those regions.

Good job, carry on.

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Old 02-03-2013, 05:58 PM   #3355
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Walter et al, if I can back track for a second to Mongolia; where do the little towns you came across get their power? We saw that the gers have solar panels, but do the little isolated towns have diesel generators?
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:28 PM   #3356
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When you do the BAM and ROB you inevitably have to cross a river or two.

Some you drive through with ease.

Some you drive through with difficulty.

Some you try to drive through.

Some will challenge your persistence.

Some you will conquer.

Some will conquer you.

But all will make your feet look like this
I've seen better looking feet on a cadaver.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:49 PM   #3357
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When you do the BAM and ROB you inevitably have to cross a river or two.

Some you drive through with ease.

Some you drive through with difficulty.

Some you try to drive through.

Some will challenge your persistence.

Some you will conquer.

Some will conquer you.

But all will make your feet look like this

So who removed the toe tag?

Thanks Colebatch and all who contributed to this ride report! Fantastic!
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:50 PM   #3358
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Here is an example of a bridge where you can choose to be "up" or "down at the base". Here you also clearly see the "safe exit" where you can hide yourself and the bike in case a train shows up.
If you have metal boxes on a bike, like Tony did in 2009, or Steve this year, its difficult riding in the safer bit down low ... cause the bike is wider and if it does hit something then nothing is going to give.
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:51 PM   #3359
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Walter et al, if I can back track for a second to Mongolia; where do the little towns you came across get their power? We saw that the gers have solar panels, but do the little isolated towns have diesel generators?
Yes the little towns have power ... I guess from diesel generators.
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Walter has anybody ever ridden the entire Bam as it sits now? If so when was the last time it was ridden?
Pretty much yes ... a Russian woman called Sasha Teplyakova rode the Western half in 2005 on her way to Magadan



and she (above) is one of only two people to have ridden the eastern half ... in 2010, with the help of a local rider called Max from Tynda (on a Djebel).

I have never met her, but she is quite a legend ... spends all her life doing extreme moto journeys ... often solo. I was interviewed in Adventure Bike Rider magazine about 12 months ago and they asked me who do I admire ... who is my hero in the world of Adventure Riding .... and I said her. I dont think many westerners have ever heard of her but she has done more hard core adventure riding than anyone. Any magazine editors reading this ... she is who you want to track down and do a story on. Its ironic ...not only is the hardest core ADVrider on the planet not one of us on this forum, nor is it a strapping tall guy, its a woman - a small lightweight russian woman who happens to have very tomboy-ish looks.

If you are pedantic about the BAM you might say she didnt ride the little bit at the finish ... from Komsomolsk to Vanino / Sovetskaya Gavan on the Pacific. They also took some trains for tough sections ... I believe Dugda to Fevralsk they were on a train and also Isa to Etyrken on a train. We know its possible to ride Isa to Etyrken as Tony, Terry and I did that in the 2009 trip (and Izi and Movistar did it in 2008), but the bit from Dugda to Fevralsk has a couple of big river crossings and no road bridge - not all of it would be rideable ... but some of it would be ... Sasha describes the rail bridge just north of Fevralsk as crawling with armed guards so you clearly have to take a train for the river crossings. But maybe more of the bits in between could be ridden.

But in principle, she is the only person that has ridden the whole BAM on a motorcycle.

Her 2005 ride http://shoorik-spb.narod.ru/Magadan_05_1.htm (BAM and Road of Bones solo on a 2 stroke Izh Planeta 5)
2010 Western BAM http://shoorik-spb.narod.ru/BAM_10_p1.htm (in a team of 4 people all riding Yamaha 250s)
2010 Eastern BAM http://shoorik-spb.narod.ru/BAM_10_1.htm (With Max from Tynda: she was on a Yamaha 250, Max on a Djebel)

I spoke with Max about it when we met him in Tynda (part of this trip still to report) and her said there was a lot of riding on the 12 inch (30 cm) edge of the sleepers ... hundreds of kilometres. The idea is that when are train comes you can throw the bike out of the way. One time his bike got clipped by a train and was sent flying down a 10 metre high embankment. I imagine getting it back up with two people to be a total chore.

For the record, Sasha and Max are the only two people I know that have ridden the Eastern BAM as much as possible (disregarding the bit beyond Komsomolsk, and the Isa-Etyrken section)

I still feel a bit of a sense of unfinished business there.

I think its possible to ride more of it ... since I have previously done the bit beyond Komsomolsk and the Isa-Etyrken section ... and stuff like the train from Dugda to Fevralsk, I think you could take a local flatbed train for the first and last parts of it, over the rivers, but you could ride the bits in between (if you have a really good map of the BAM from Nora to Cherbinka).

It would be insanely tough. And you really ideally want a sub 120 kg bike and light luggage. I think Sasha and Max took the right weight bikes for it. Fortunately I still have my Husaberg 570 (Lukas, Barton are you reading??)
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