Sibirsky Extreme 2012 - The Toughest Ride of Them All

[sion]

Originally Posted by duibhceK

Only down side is that you will not get spoken instructions.

I find that to be a positive. First thing I did with my Zumo 660 was to mute the turn by turn instructions.

[Colebatch]

Originally Posted by Phreaky Phil

Did you draw all of the tracks in to create your route ?

Yes, on google earth there is a button labelled "add path". Using that tool you draw a line by adding points.

When finished, highlight the header for it on the left side lists of stuff, and save it somewhere as a KMZ file. Using WinGDB3 (http://www.sackman.info/) or www.gpsvisualizer.com i convert the KMZ file to a GPX track file and open in Mapsource - then its ready to load onto a Montana.

You can do the same thing (drawing your track) with a bit of free Russian software called SASplanet (http://sasgis.ru/download/ - extract it into a directory and run the exe file). SASplanet allows you to choose different satellite image sources from google, yahoo, bing, and several russian sources ... whereas google earth just allows you access to google satellite images. Also SASplanet stores all downloaded imagery in a hard-drive cache, and you can even set it to download areas or even countries at various resolutions, so you can use them offline, when you are out lost in the middle of nowhere. Its a nifty bit of software and now allows installs in English (before it was Russian only and a real handful)

If you prefer working in basecamp, then like for the Montanas, you must work with tracks and not routes. If you work with routes in basecamp, your entire effort will be wasted, as basecamp thinks its smarter than you are ignores all the hundreds of points you have drawn as your intended route from A to B ... it takes only points A and B and calculates its own way there. I still have a huge preference for garminising via Mapsource.

[davesupreme]

great info!... exactly what i've been looking for......... been looking for some way to take google w/me w/out internet connection..... very valuable!.....

[Colebatch]

Originally Posted by AFCFORME

Walter, i was wondering if you had any experience with the Garmin GPSmap line, 60 or 62 in particular. And if so how you feel they compare to the Montana.

Well I dont have any direct experience with them, but I do know they have very small screens with much lower resolution than the Montana. My experience when riding with guys that used 60 and 62 CSx units in the past, was that they ALWAYS had to slow down significantly or stop to read them and control them. They were too small to be readable at 60 mph off road (especially with the vibrations).

As the vidcaps show, there are a load of track splits or intersections on this track. You have to check at each and every one that you are going the right way. If you can do that without slowing down, from just a quick glance at the unit, its a huge convenience. I wish they made these things with 5 inch screens, like many of the car units, but for now 4 inch is as big as bike capable screens get - and thats the Montana.

A comparison on the link below highlights the screen size and screen resolution difference (almost 4 times re pixel resolution). Surprisingly, the weight is almost the same. 9.2 oz for the 62s vs 10.2 oz for the Montana.

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/compare....eProduct=63801

[Rensen]

wow that´s a nice journey indeed, just read threw the posts.

[Colebatch]

The ride began well. Weather was great, track condition was promising. The only thing we missed was Olga from Pervomayskiy.

For the next few days we were covering some of the tracks I did in the Russian Off Road Challenge in 2010 ... so where possible, I was going to take new pics from 2012 to compare the track. If there was one thing I remembered from 2010, there were some superb smooth fast sections on todays track. We should have a real ball.

(see 2010 pics of this section here http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...&postcount=183)

[Colebatch]

This was also the fast section when in 2010, little Andrey (PG) went head over heels in a somersault at over 80 km/h (50 mph)

See here:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...&postcount=342

[out rider]

Originally Posted by Colebatch

This was also the fast section when in 2010, little Andrey (PG) went head over heels in a somersault at over 80 km/h (50 mph)

See here:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...&postcount=342

How did his soft side bags hold up?

[Pate]

Originally Posted by Colebatch

This was also the fast section when in 2010, little Andrey (PG) went head over heels in a somersault at over 80 km/h (50 mph)

See here:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...&postcount=342

Yes, he wanted to make drift for a video camera.

He is man of iron, 2 months ago it destroyed the motorcycle finally. Itself it is absolutely healthy.

[2WheelieADV]

Originally Posted by Colebatch

Yes, on google earth there is a button labelled "add path". Using that tool you draw a line by adding points.

When finished, highlight the header for it on the left side lists of stuff, and save it somewhere as a KMZ file. Using WinGDB3 (http://www.sackman.info/) i convert the KMZ file to a GPX track file and open in Mapsource - then its ready to load onto a Montana.

You can do the same thing (drawing your track) with a bit of free Russian software called SASplanet (http://sasgis.ru/download/ - extract it into a directory and run the exe file). SASplanet allows you to choose different satellite image sources from google, yahoo, bing, and several russian sources ... whereas google earth just allows you access to google satellite images. Also SASplanet stores all downloaded imagery in a hard-drive cache, and you can even set it to download areas or even countries at various resolutions, so you can use them offline, when you are out lost in the middle of nowhere. Its a nifty bit of software and now allows installs in English (before it was Russian only and a real handful)
If you prefer working in basecamp, then like for the Montanas, you must work with tracks and not routes. If you work with routes in basecamp, your entire effort will be wasted, as basecamp thinks its smarter than you are ignores all the hundreds of points you have drawn as your intended route from A to B ... it takes only points A and B and calculates its own way there. I still have a huge preference for garminising via Mapsource.

Great info VValter! Thanks.
Have you ever use TYRE? It is more like google maps vveres Mapsource is less user-friendly, correct me if I'm vvrong.

[Pate]

Originally Posted by 2WheelieADV

Great info VValter! Thanks.
Have you ever use TYRE? It is more like google maps vveres Mapsource is less user-friendly, correct me if I'm vvrong.

Unfortunately, you can't work
only in SASp, you should use and GOOGLE EARTH also.
As GOOGLE doesn't allow SAS to load a picture of high resolution.
But 2 programs together lead to very good result

[Colebatch]

Here was a pic from 2010 ...


And here's Terry in 2012

[Erik RS]

So nobody created a shortcut in the meantime
But it looks a lot drier the last time

[Colebatch]

2010 - Myself:


2012 - Terry:

[tee bee]

Sorry for the late post, but just to back up what walter said.... Olga really was rather... umm, stunning..