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Old 11-21-2012, 09:40 AM   #751
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interesting G/S setup .. wonder why he didn't go with larger fuel tank?
There is a 'home' built custom aux fuel tank under the seat.....
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:57 AM   #752
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And 30 km before Astana, the trails stopped. New satellite towns were springing up in our path.
any idea why? industry? I can't get over the expanse when you look at a global map China and the US are about the same size.

When you look at Russia it's just a tad bigger.

Like huge. Talk about undeveloped land. How much grain can they grow/sell from out of there it must make the US grain fields of Kansas look like a back yard garden.

fascinating glimpse thanks so much for taking the time to post all of this I for one find "boring" places usually somewhat interesting.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:02 AM   #753
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Nachtflug & NMT, I'm certainthat this is a retrospective RR, the weather across the steppe and on the high plateau at this time of year will be very cold.

In a previous report I'm sure that Walter and Sherri-Jo were getting snow and frost in early September.
I kind of figured that but just had to ask. Really make's riding in the US seem like a joke for the most part you're never too far from gas, hotels, tow trucks, etc etc etc compared to where this is and if I'm looking at the global maps right he's still in the "populated" area's.

awesome trip and report as are all of his.
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:54 PM   #754
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interesting G/S setup .. wonder why he didn't go with larger fuel tank?
There is an extra fuel tank under the seat. Before this ST I had a R100GS and felt it was top heavy.
Thats why I sold the 100GS and re-build this ST with a lower center of gravity.
All together I have 24 liter and never had a problem during this trip.

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Old 11-21-2012, 02:20 PM   #755
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Looks good. Nice job :-)
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:46 PM   #756
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Thanks for the introduction Walter,

Great report ! And nice to see what we missed before Astana.

Our bikes had some modifications.
But more or less the same sort of things as Walter and Terry's bike.

Things like :
Extra fuel storage, bash plate, racks for soft luggage, some suspension upgrades, handle bar risers, stronger rims (exel)
and loads of other small details.

But I believe this post is in the RR section so I won't bother you all with bike build stuff.

The training Walter mentioned was not specially for this trip. It's one of the few ways to enjoy off road riding here in The Netherlands. There is simply not enough space or too many rules for off road riding here !!!

That's why this trip was so great, to be free to go where ever you like without someone bothering you
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:01 PM   #757
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Moscow R&R Control here!

Now we have seen 4 faces and 5 motos that I spent time with as they returned through here over the weeks and months ahead, in various stages of disrepair (the motos - not the faces!).

Knowing more of the coming terrain. I am interested to see how it has changed.

I am as hooked as everyone and wishing more than them that I had been on this one ....

Keep it flowing.
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:11 PM   #758
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I am as hooked as everyone and wishing more than them that I had been on this one ....
Next time Tony , you will be on the next one I am sure.

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Old 11-21-2012, 04:43 PM   #759
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Hmm... Rob Currie, I think I saw him on the trip to Timbuktu with Pyndon. Salt and Gold right? Kinda famous entourage Walter.

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Old 11-21-2012, 06:22 PM   #760
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Its not only unthinkable, but you simply can not cross a international customs border with a firearm. If you get searched and they find it, you would get thrown in jail and they'd throw away the key.

I really dont fancy seeing the inside of a Kazakh prison.

We had no security but ourselves, our smiles and the speed of our motorcycles. The reality is, if you want to travel internationally, thats all you're ever going to get - apart from maybe a big knife.

Thats the deal.

The flipside of that is you dont need any security except your smile, your wits, and your motorcycle.

Dont take my word for it ... take it from the girls ... Sherri Jo Wilkins, an American / Australian rider who has been riding around the world non stop for 3 years ... doesnt even carry a can of mace let alone anything else. And Tiffany Coates ... who has been everywhere in the world on her bike in the last 15 years and doesnt carry anything apart from the occasional (female) pillion passenger. So if thats what the solo girls who ride around the world do, then as a guy, you dont want to be looking like you are more worried and needing more protection than the girls !

Security is pretty simple ... take a chain for your bike and be friendly to locals.
I was told that an emergency flair gun is legal to carry anywhere in the world. I guess a bad guy would be quiet concerned if that big barrel was pointed at him!
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:21 PM   #761
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Thanks for the introduction Walter,

Great report ! And nice to see what we missed before Astana.

Our bikes had some modifications.
But more or less the same sort of things as Walter and Terry's bike.

Things like :
Extra fuel storage, bash plate, racks for soft luggage, some suspension upgrades, handle bar risers, stronger rims (exel)
and loads of other small details.

But I believe this post is in the RR section so I won't bother you all with bike build stuff.

The training Walter mentioned was not specially for this trip. It's one of the few ways to enjoy off road riding here in The Netherlands. There is simply not enough space or too many rules for off road riding here !!!

That's why this trip was so great, to be free to go where ever you like without someone bothering you
Hi Prutser, I would be very interested to learn more about you Beemer. I have an R80 GS myself that I have done a lot of miles on here in NZ but we have taken 650s on our last 2 overseas expeditions. I have been thinking lately about doing something similar to yours.
Would you consider doing a build report linked to this thread so we can learn some more about you bike ?
Cheers Phil
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:32 PM   #762
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interesting G/S setup .. wonder why he didn't go with larger fuel tank?
As mentioned ... he had a custom 4.5 litre tank under his seat ... along with his stock 19.5 litre G/S tank gave him 24 litres. Bearing in mind Terry had a total of 17 litres, the range was similar for those two bikes. There is no point carrying more fuel than the shortest range bike in the group, since we have to fuel up for that bike anyway.

No one ran out of fuel anywhere, so carrying more fuel would have just hampered the big G/S with even more weight, since it was the already the heaviest bike in the group by probably about 25 - 30 kgs - even though it was already stripped down a lot to save weight. As a safety measure, Prutser carried a 6-7 litre fuel bladder ... which is great since it weighs pretty much nothing when you dont use it, takes up pretty much no bulk. But we hardly used it.

Worth noting ... both Prutser and Beemsters bikes had 18 inch rear rims and 21 inch front rims (Excel) fitted.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:32 AM   #763
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How fortuitious for Walter to end up in a motel, right by a beach. Coincidence? (waiting for pics....................)
Well ... oddly enough ... I have no pics of the beach at all.

It wasnt the softest sand in the world, but it had a bunch of beach hut things that you could sit in all day, drinking beer, eating shashlik and looking out at the beach and the river.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:51 AM   #764
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Well ... oddly enough ... I have no pics of the beach at all.

It wasnt the softest sand in the world, but it had a bunch of beach hut things that you could sit in all day, drinking beer, eating shashlik and looking out at the beach and the river.
I have some pics I'll post tonight but honestly guys, don't expect much.

Bizarrely, although the river through the city had open frontage for much of its length, the fact that our hotel had a bar where they played bad Euro-pop VERY loud all day and much of the night seemed to make the place...THE PLACE and carloads of would-be revellers would pitch up to get stoated ( drunk) and dance in their underwear. If this sounds appealing its because you weren't there and your imagination has taken over-written the reality. Very often these were decidedly unattractive middle-aged porkers of both genders and any watching was usually of the "appalled fascination" type and featured low on the letch-ometer.
Additionally the river was pretty grubby -the Hotel was called Tri Peskara-The Three Fishes, because I think that's all there are left in it...and we all swam in it, but only once and Terry had a tummy bug after his dip.
This didn't put off the locals who would try to sneak in (it was a gated /fenced resort type thing) up the river and would then fall foul of the seriously ripped special forces type bouncer who'd get these guys in a headlock and literally throw them out into the dust...in their underpants. One guy then sneaked back in and got the same again. Unbelievable.
When the sun went down they would crank up the music to ear-busting level and then the famous sabre toothed Kazakh mosquito would come out. He'd usually bring his pals and the kids (so he could show them the grips)..deep joy. These guys meant business. It was baking hot during our stay and the hotel had no aircon, so the building would be roasting when you went to bed and thus you couldn't sleep 'til about 4 in the morning.
We were all pretty exhausted after a few days of this but the Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away and to counter the disadvantages he blessed us with ...beer- . HURRAH!
If I'm making it sound miserable it wasn't, it was fun for the first couple of days and it gave the Walter and T some time to work on the bikes and recharge their own batteries.
I'll pop some pics up tonight .
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