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Old 12-11-2012, 06:19 AM   #1261
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This report rocks - thank you for taking the time to write and share it with us.

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Old 12-11-2012, 06:36 AM   #1262
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The last gasps of the KTM ?

The track we were on seemed untravelled in weeks or months ... in some sections I reckoned we might be the first vehicles this year ... it was pretty over grown with grass 3 feet high. Terry who was leading at the time only just saw this washed away section in time to brake. He then guided the rest of us around it.



Rod was losing his front wheel a lot now in this combination of slippery clay like mud and slippery wet compressed plants. And this is where he came to regret his front tyre choice. He had a TKC80 ... kinda OK in the dry conditions, but just nowhere near enough grip now. A comparative look at treads will show why.



TKC80 is very much a road tyre with grooves cut into the tread rubber ... looking at the tyre above (TKC80 21 inch) ... its about 70% in contact with a hard surfaced road (a slick would have 100% possible contact with a road, while a normal road tyre would be about 95%). Whereas a normal knobbly tyre (see below) is about 25-35% in contact with a hard surfaced road. The knobs are much wider spaced. The spaces between knobs on a TKC80 are little more than tread grooves. Great on asphalt but in the stuff we were in now, they were making poor Rod's life hell. He was going down more often than Kim Kardashian in a locker room.



And if that wasnt bad enough for him, the KTM began dying again ... even in the pouring rain. His bike had deteriorated to the point that he could barely ride 200 yards on it at a time before it died again - needing a 2-3 minute break before it would fire up again. After a number of delays, I told Terry, Prutser and Beamster to ride on ahead to the next town (20 km away) and wait for us there. I stayed behind and helped escort Rod out of that track - 200 metres at a time

The track was too slippery to ride ... so we rode in the metre high long grass to the side of the track.

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Old 12-11-2012, 06:47 AM   #1263
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How do you get your boots and gear dry after a day with river crossings? I don't imagine you'd like having wet feet for days on end?
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:48 AM   #1264
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I've been reading this thinking that you could get away with roadish tyres on that....Not any more! It's bad enough if you're out for the day in snotty conditions, at least you know you're off home for a hot shower at the end, this stuff must make you all have to really dig deep to keep on.....Nice from the computer though!
Walter did you get the fairing bracket sorted out?
Terry what's the situation with the oil coolers?
Thanks for putting all this up
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:02 AM   #1265
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How do you get your boots and gear dry after a day with river crossings? I don't imagine you'd like having wet feet for days on end?
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:11 AM   #1266
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It's bad enough if you're out for the day in snotty conditions, at least you know you're off home for a hot shower at the end, this stuff must make you all have to really dig deep to keep on.....Nice from the computer though!
This was a bit of track I had not ridden before, so I didnt know where we were going to stay this night. I actually had an idea but in the horrible conditions our progress was slow, so we had to rescale our proposed end of day target. When you are soaking wet, with one bike that wont run well and you dont know where you will stay the night (should be somewhere where you can get your stuff dry) then I have to disagree with the guy who said there is no such thing as a bad day riding. For me, this was the first riding day of this trip that I couldnt wait for it to end.

Thing is, if all bikes were running and the weather was warm and dry, it would have been an awesome day riding in the forested Altai foothills.

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Walter did you get the fairing bracket sorted out?
Well on the road, we just had to weld it up, but I had been in frequent contact with Erik back at Hot Rod after the initial crack and he redesigned the bracket on his CAD machine taking in the feedback and fotos from this test ride ... Its now thicker alloy and with a redesigned area where the stresses concentrate. So yes the design is now all sorted and I will get that on my bike this winter.

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Terry what's the situation with the oil coolers?
Its with Stephan at the moment ... you want to drop him an email, asking when he will have them on sale. The more people hassle him, the quicker he will get them ready. Business is like that :) kontakt@scheffelmeier-metall.de
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:19 AM   #1267
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Thanks Walter, will do.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:30 AM   #1268
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More KTM problems

TKC 80.
I'd used it in Morocco and Spain on hardpack and sand and it'd been fine. On mud it was a terrible choice and I paid big time. The tyre would just ball up and I couldn't steer at all. it would also just wash out on a camber andI I'd go down. This allied to an engine that wouldn't run meant I was sometimes deadsticking down hills and the bike would just fold under me.
I also couldn't climb out of the mud and had to follow ruts and deeeep puddles. A Day Of Joy indeed .





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Old 12-11-2012, 07:55 AM   #1269
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what a great read!

Rod, I must admit you have pushed on with the KTM longer than I would have. I remember being on a road trip once (pavement, in the US) on a BMW that was not behaving properly. I very nearly traded it and finished the ride on a different bike, and my situation was not nearly as bad as yours. I made it home on the BMW, but got rid of it soon after.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:22 AM   #1270
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:30 AM   #1271
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Amazing things lately.
Strange and wondrous roads during the rains.

Step on strongly, this is the stuff of memories.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:36 AM   #1272
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But on the other hand

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what a great read!

Rod, I must admit you have pushed on with the KTM longer than I would have. I remember being on a road trip once (pavement, in the US) on a BMW that was not behaving properly. I very nearly traded it and finished the ride on a different bike, and my situation was not nearly as bad as yours. I made it home on the BMW, but got rid of it soon after.
It at least showed that KTM fit excellent batteries to their bikes as I probably had to start it 300 times that day. No exaggeration I promise. In the end I disconnected the headlight to save power wherever I could.

One of the guys mentioned a poor earth (ground) lead from the coil on his bike causing him to lose a spark. We'd checked that and the spark available would have killed a donkey-but thanks for the observation and I 'm glad you got your bike sorted.

I'm known as someone with quite a short fuse, But now I couldn't get wetter...the bike couldn't be any more fucked...I could hardly be further from home . I'd now kinda reached my inner Zen and was pretty fatalistic about it. I won't die and I probably won't get pregnant . At worst I'll dump the bike, bum a ride and go home. SORTED!

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Old 12-11-2012, 08:45 AM   #1273
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It at least showed that KTM fit excellent batteries to their bikes !

Well thats more than BMW give u. For 5-6 years now just about every BMW to leave the factory is subject to a battery recall
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:14 AM   #1274
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Well thats more than BMW give u. For 5-6 years now just about every BMW to leave the factory is subject to a battery recall
pretty much an alternator problem, e.g. not big enough, on the R1200GS models. I sourced a 750W alternator and re-did the wiring for it on my GS and all is now good. an Odyssey battery makes it even more so.

(would now replace the Odyssey with a couple of Shorai batteries now)

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Old 12-11-2012, 09:37 AM   #1275
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Thanks Stashek for the kind words about the old machine.

It sure looks cool submerged being pushed by 2 or pulled by 3 to get it out of trouble
Don't know if that will convert many skeptics, but I still like the thing.

Its real nice to hear people enjoying the stone age technique doing ok amongst the newer bikes.
Thanks for answering my questions.
This RR is addictive. I'm laid up house bound at the moment so keep checking your progress more frequently than is healthy. Mind you it's the one thing keeping me sane
Just a couple more questions for you Prutser if that's ok. What make is the rear fender and seat on your ST.

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